(nothing I am about to say is necessarily personal; I am genuinely grateful for the link!)

Is there a table of these requirements as columns and vendors as rows?

I think most of this list is acquired by having a modern CPU or SoC, no?

Much of the list is software requirements.

There is one item that sticks out:

• Support for disabling USB data and also USB as a whole at a hardware level in the USB controller

Just how much of the hardware list is satisfied by say having a Snapdragon SoC?

I would prefer if people said such and such vendor is missing such and such feature which we need. Always NAME the SPECIFICS. A link to a web page with the exact specifics missing for the most popular phones would help, imo. This is clear and educational. Instead we get “they don’t got no good hardware maaaan.” It’s annoying. Looks handwavy even when it is not.

We should consider divorcing Goggle from Android via something like GrapheneOS or /e/OS.

I appreciate the spirit of reistance, also +1 for the left hand path, however, the broader society needs a more solid solution to these privacy-invading and covertly installing apps. I get it you’re doing the best you know how. I am in the same boat. But we need something more solid for the long term.

No shit. The billionaires at the top worry about public safety, would you believe it? (giant fucking sarcasm tag goes here for all my asperger ftiends)

Who owns the (fully paid up) phone that’s in my hands right now? I try to tell myself I do, but…

Yea, I am not a happy camper.

I have a Moto phone, as far as I know they have made $0 from me in analytics or ads.

Moto phones in my experience are some of the most debloated phones out there.

I keep hearing this thing about the necessary hardware.

What is this exotic piece of hardware that the GrapheneOS needs? Please, someone tell me what it is.

AI could maybe help stress test the game before the final release. If AI were used like that, the game itself would likely not be considered slopified.

The dirty data centers, the RAM chip grab, the widening divide between the haves and the have nots being exacerbated by the billionaire AI ownership, these problems have to be addressed before I can even consider the other issues. AI as tech is usable, but as a socioeconomic phenomenon it is hugely problematic.

I apologise for a 2nd reply, I just wanted to clarify.

What I cannot readily control (or don’t know how) is the internal hunger stemming from the soul (mine or enemy’s).

But which hungers get to dominate in a public arena, I do have a say in that. So having some hunger may be inevitable, but making that personal hunger into an impositional system for everyone, that’s not inevitable.

So yea, they want hardware attestation now. They’re not relaxing until they find out what we do with the fingerprinting ecosystem first. That’s laughable.

Since they’re going to do what they’re going to do, and since the outcome is never set in stone ahead of time but instead has to be discovered by living life, we have no reason not to chase our dreams and ambitions as much as they chase theirs. I have no reason to preemptively block or throttle my energy. I am not here to please any would be nannies. I have fears, but do not allow my fears to impact my logic. And besides I fear surveillance capitalism more than whatever else the “punishment” is promised to be.

Nothing is inevitable. Everything is negotiable.

With how things are going now, every day I am more amenable to this line of thinking.

Again we’re back to bad fear-based logic.

You’re saying hardware attestation is a looming punishment for poisonin fingerprinting.

Wrong.

The enemy wants hardware attestation now, and they want it bad. Nothing you do or avoid doing can influence this because they, the enemy, are responding to their own hungers.

I repeat, there are only two valid reasons to stop prosecuting a fight, and this isn’t one of them.

You are offering an incorrect model of the enemy as a nanny who will try to shape my behavior in responce to my behavior. I “need” to please the nanny and I “need” to avoid pissing off the nanny. Your argument is designed for that sentiment: nanny-pleasing.

The correct model is one based on INTERESTS. The enemy has an interest in hardware attestation regardless of what we do or don’t do. They will prosecute their interests KNOWING those are deeply unpopular. Look at the Guardians Of Pedophiles party, the GOP in USA. They are unpopular. They are hated. They KNOW this. They keep trucking. Why? The INTEREST didn’t go away. The interest is not socially shaped, unfortunately (or fortunately?).

With the way things are going being pro-Constitution will soon be terrorism.

I am not even against the yacht money, just fucking STOP with the ARISTOCRATIC behaviors, dynamics, incentives.

I support a wealth cap ample enough to own a yacht, but not enough to make rogue aristocravcy viable. At least for now. The billionaires are doing everything they can to convince me that maybe even the yacht money is too much wealth holding.

I don’t think what you’re saying here in this last reply competes with what I am saying.

It is both/and. Not either/or.

My strat combines naturally with using advocacy, electoralism, lying flat, malicious compliance methods, militancy, legal/beurocratic methods, economic methods, etc.

I am for all of these. Whatever works.

But ignoring the human relationship dimension and exclusively focusing on prosecuting tech, imo, is not a serious strategy.

Besides, someone who needs to hide their ID now should use Tor now. Someone who has a lower risk profile can afford a solution that aims to poison the well for the long term in preference to a better ID protection.

I am not doing anything illegal, I want to poison the well if I can. I still use Tor sometimes anyway. I want the whole fingerprinting industry to just go away.

I am a cynic on this specific event. I think this is all Rockstar’s marketing ploy.

I don’t follow any gaming-specific news, and haven’t paid money for a game in over a decade. All my gaming needs are satisfied by the few FOSS games. And here I am learning of the GTA 6’s approaching release. If this is marketing, Rockstar practically raped into my eyeballs the fact that their game is coming out soon. Fuck. I am not even their target audience and here I am.

I say all this is pure marketing by Rockstar. Just my gut feeling.

I hope they don’t use Discord. Discord does very strong browser fingerprinting.

Just fundamentally, to fight, you have want to win.

You are arguing to stop fighting on the basis of a supposedly improper desire. Wanting small bite sized things is proper. Wanting something audacious is not. Your kind of argument could work in theory if my desire is unserious. That’s just psychology, not technology.

The scariness and the capabilities of an adversary is never, on their own, a proper reason to not fight.

The valid reasons can be: a deeply reasoned and deeply felt long term change in priorities, or a tactical hiatus to rest, regroup, reload. These are completely internal affairs, meaning, a serious person cannot be casually argued either into or out of these. I would check in with my soul to know whether or not to fight. Not with strangers on the net.

People fight to satisfy a certain hunger, and not because it looks easy or is a popular thing.

Of these Tor is the best for protecting identity, however Tor produces a recognizeably Tor-like fingerprint, which for my preference is not ideal.

So for example Tor browsers can all be denied access, because Tor, not the individual user, but the kind of browser used, can still be identified.

My ultimate latent goal isn’t to only protect the anonymity of a security-conscious user, but to poison all fingerprinting data so that the entire technique is abandoned as useless.

fonts, screen resolution, many things can affect fingerprint.

The solution is not “a browser from a reputable company.”

It will be a browser designed by security professionals to spoof fingerprints, along with a “crawler” that analyzes the current blend of fingerprints already out there, crawling not web pages but the request headers instead, and canvas outputs, etc.

I don’t think such a browser plus infrastructure exist yet, but they will. It is inevitable.

Such a browser will output garbage yet plausible and believable fingerprints that maximize ambiguity.

Always, unless by mistake it is off.