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  • its_me_xiphos@beehaw.orgtoChat@beehaw.orgWhat have we done?
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    3 days ago

    This is not an issue in the Netherlands. There are not giant vehicles, kids have autonomy at a younger age, and society is structured around allowing family and play time. Infrastructure allows kids to visit friends and play safely. Kids can run off and do anything, adults rarely intervene. Its a kid paradise compared to the US today and is more aligned with the 80s and 90s you describe in the US. I remember those times too. But its not perfect here either.

    There is a line between autonomy and trauma. A kid is free to make a decision, but also free to suffer horrendous consequences without any empathy or adult support to help them recover. At least in my experience. For instance, a kid did not bring gloves to school and thus was not prepared for a sudden sleet storm in the ride home. Asking for help and telling people they were in pain and scared only to be responded to with the dutch equivilant of suck it up kid - you aren’t made of sugar. Thats trauma for damn sure that will come back to guide their actions as an adult.

    There has to be a balance, and I fear many peoples are not meeting it.


  • Leaving the Netherlands. Need to file a US tax extension which is pain. My partner got the “ghosted at the border” issue resolved. An HR person made a mistake but it got fixed. We can move forward with relocation in Canada. That was an anxiety producing 5 days!

    Sad that the Netherlands was not for us. Housing crisis + academic burnout + just not fitting in + no job = move. I am recording my bike rides with a go pro knock off to remember the lovely biking infrastructure and nature. As well as the insanity of biking rush hour.

    I did help our friends move from the US to down the street. They are a gay couple and finally feel safe here. That means alot to me as there are no better people I know than them and they deserve peace and happiness.













  • That’s a good read, thank you for sharing. I do not believe that a lack of privacy and surveillance are a given. You can have a strong Democratic state with surveillance, if you have strong privacy guarantees and the means to enforce them. I’ll point to the, for the time, rapidly expanding surveillance state of revolutionary America in the 1770s and 1780s for that, but I admit, this is a much larger discussion, but your article and point are well taken.

    Edit: Update based on additional thoughts and comments below. This reply is to the perspectives and argument offered by /u/euxotic and my response is: “Circling around to say I thought about this over the last four days. In brief, my perspective that you can have a surveillance apparatus and a contemporary democracy in the 21st century were misguided. You are right.”





  • Take anything Palantir says about democracy as either a dog whistle or a threat. Palantirs product is mass surveillance and criminal behavior prediction (location, whereabouts, movement patterns). That’s authoritarian, but not necessarily antidemocratic. You can still vote and be a democracy with mass (edit: typo was with ass survelliance…might still work) surveillance, don’t conflate it.

    Where the anti Democratic comes in is using that surveillance to prevent people from exercising their right to vote and manipulating their information so they vote how you want. That’s what Palantir is enabling.

    Aside: Its nuts how accurate their name is in spirit. Almost commendable they carried through embracing the name and the power behind it.