Yes, it’s your words where you suggested the goal of the Fediverse was to outgrow reddit.

Incorrect. I don’t have any words where I suggested the goal of the Fediverse was to outgrow reddit.

It’s also probably not anything like that. Breaking it down into components, I try to remember not to say brand names like “Fediverse” have “goals” like people, and even though I mess that up sometimes, I also don’t know if the people who run the “Fediverse brand name” want to outgrow reddit, so I don’t think I’d say that.

You’ve repeatedly shown you don’t understand the basics of the purpose of the fediverse to most users here.

Incorrect. I haven’t discussed it enough to do that. I barely know what the “fediverse” is at all. It’s only been mentioned in this thread a few times, where I have been able to understand enough to give logical replies.

I think I’d end up being one of those “middle people” if I’m allowed.

What if the places that ban people end up banning the “middle people” - like, “starting today, anyone who posts in the other place is banned from posting in this one”

I fear people like me being wiped out, followed by more when we’re not there to fight for the world

Thank you again for the sense of sincerity I get from your replies

then it’s misleading to use the word censorship i think, it’s more a mix of a lack of visibility and echo chambers

But the authorities cause it willingly, so it’s censorship, imo. Maybe debatable

If i understood you correctly, could you expand on your solution ?

Another way of looking at the problem is, without Tor federation, all the federated instances will be 100% one group of people, and each Tor instance will be 100% another group

That’s not healthy, there needs to be a balance where each place has some of each group. I don’t want a place full of nothing but pedophiles, but I also don’t want a place full of nothing but people who send pedophiles to their own place. I want a place full of nothing but people who agree everyone should be allowed to talk

Got it, will do 🙏

You don’t even know most of the active lemmy instances.

Who asked if I did?

I find it unlikely that you have any evidence of any Lemmy instance having being shut down by the “authorities” ™

I didn’t ask if you do.

It shows that we have a good idea what will happen without censorship.

How would it do that? How does it do that?

I don’t really give a fuck about your questions.

I didn’t ask if you do.

It’s pathetic that it took so many posts for you to finally acknowledge this question.

How many?

Also, is there a way to tell if (or maybe when) a post here is edited, so you could prove your answer with numbered links?

What sort of comical Jordan Peterson style reply is this lmao

Neither comical nor Jordan Peterson style.

If I remember right you said “these rules” but it was a question, so it’s acting like I somehow know what set of rules you mean when you didn’t establish a group of rules to be talking about before calling it “these rules”

Lmao what evidence fucking hell

The lack of anyone else demonstrating the same level of fluency as me despite what seems like immense pressure to do so in the current state of the anglosphere / planet

So what do I mean when I say “Disprove a negative” then?

Hopefully the opposite of “proving a negative,” i.e. to do the opposite of proving with the opposite of a positive, but you’ve shown it’s not safe to assume you’re using terminology correctly, so I have no fucking idea, and your use of the word “so” is weird here, like me knowing what words mean is supposed to mean I know what you mean by them when you keep using your own secret definitions of things. For all I know, you mean the common phrase “proving a negative” and you simply remembered it wrong.

I haven’t googled anything.

Maybe you should try it.

I’m awaiting evidence from you of a lemmy instance being shut down by the “authorities”.

Why? I didn’t tell you to do that.

4chan and Twitter are less censored than Reddit, but even more garbage.

“Less censored” and “more garbage” are both heavily debatable, but why did you bring this up? What’s the relevance?

I don’t see how that question baits you.

That’s why I suggested you try asking on nostr, instead of here. It’s hard to know the answers to questions you’ve asked in places the person you’re asking knows it’s not really possible to give an appropriate answer.

You keep replying. I obviously don’t need to give you anything here.

I didn’t ask, but why did you put this right after a part where you ignored yet another question I asked? At least it was explicitly a rhetorical question this time, but still weird behavior to keep copying and pasting all the questions for no reason.

So as I said: Where’s your evidence of lemmy.world mods being glowies?

I’ll half-answer this if you answer one of the many questions you’ve ignored from me.

Yes. You did claim that lemmy.world mods are glowies. Source

Why are you acting like I suddenly forgot this?

I’ll do whatever I like.

I didn’t ask if you would.

You should stop putting your own statements in quote marks, it’s weird.

Name me these reasons for them being pressured.

What do you mean by “these?”

You think you’re the best living english speaker on the planet?

Most fluent, that’s what the evidence suggests.

Who are “the authorities” here? The owners of instances? It’s not clear what you’re referring to.

Why are you asking again and acting like it isn’t clear when I’ve answered this question in very clear wording multiple different ways for you already?

Why would “the authorities” (whatever that means) block IP addresses and domain names in the event of potential Lemmy growth?

Same reason they created FCC licenses, same reason they started taking subreddits away from reddit mods by force, etc.

War criminals would find it difficult to keep being granted authority by The People without seeding mental illness and shifting the overton window as far as possible from reality

This still seems dishonest

I hope in the near future you’ll find more of a paying audience than YouTube or Spotify have ever offered you

I don’t know. Is there some reason to do that? My idea seems to make more sense to me.

Or did you mean temporarily, like, why should lemmy.world be first?

I’m saying Lemmy’s censorship is the same as reddit’s because we still have roughly the same groups as on reddit.

I still post to about the same audience or smaller, not bigger than peak reddit.

The people saying “ambulance rides shouldn’t cost money” are still drowned out by the people saying “poor people should die because I’m rich enough to be the one people listen to” so I don’t think we should choose who to listen to based on money.

If reddit worked as a system the authorities could use to control discussion, what we have now with reddit and Lemmy definitely isn’t any less useful for the authorities that way, because I seem to be making slower progress towards making ambulance rides free, instead of faster progress.

You can’t claim abuse when you keep choosing to reply.

Incorrect. Abuse is not defined by a lack of responses from the victim.

I’ve no more “abused” you than you have me.

Incorrect. I have only been a tiny bit abusive to you in small bursts. You’ve been extremely abusive to me constantly for hours.

And it’s ironic you talk about “mental needs” when you’ve been claiming “abuse” from me for pages and pages despite repeatedly coming back for more.

Not really. You’re pretending it’s ironic as another weak attempt at gaslighting.

Right. If you read my original post, you’d see I was looking for a a fully zero-censorship instance/cluster to transition into.

You refuse answer most of my questions.

Incorrect. I have answered most of your questions, often multiple times since you keep repeating them.

I feel completely justified in the doing the same.

Maybe you’re insane enough to believe I refuse to answer most of your questions, and you feel justified, but that’s not healthy. You also might just be knowingly lying through your teeth, which isn’t healthy either.

I’m pointing out your hypocrisy.

Nope. There’s none there to point out. I do keep pointing out yours, though.

All behaviour is not equal.

Correct.

I haven’t hurled abuse at you

Incorrect. You have been “hurling” abusive replies at me for hours.

you have repeatedly hurtled abuse and insults at me.

Incorrect. What I have done is repeatedly “hurtled” (hurled?) insults at you, and occasionally responded in kind to your abuse.

You literally said here that it shouldn’t be removable.

Didn’t remember ever using the word “removable.”

Clicked your link. Ctrl+f “removable” both results are you, not me.

Finally.

What do you mean?

How am I spamming? I’m replying to your posts.

You’re replying with abusive nonsense, making me repeat stuff 50 times, ignoring all my questions while asking a thousand of your own, etc. It’s quite spammy.

Sounds like you want me censored.

From the current version of Lemmy, which relies on that kind of targeted censorship in its design, which you’re against fixing.

Not from nostr, which you can’t be banned from or have your posts removed from, where I’ve repeatedly said you should join me in discussion since you seemed to be trying to bait me to say things I could be banned for.

Not from the version of Lemmy I want, where only spammers are censored, and no human is banned (their spam is just removed/throttled/blocked by individual users)

It’s also comical to me that you assume an instance with zero rules would automatically lead to good-faith discussion.

I didn’t ask.

And you know what it would look like, would you?

I simply speculate on it, instead of lying about what it would mean.

You’d kinda be isolating yourself to what those “middle people” tell you, but I guess that’s honestly fine if you have a trustworthy social circle.

You don’t have to reply.

I didn’t ask if I do. Why waste both of our time typing that? Just because you’re a very abusive person, right? Like, you’re willing to waste your own time just to also waste mine?

I’m done now really, but will be reporting your insults.

Good luck getting me banned. I assume you mentally need it, and I don’t really care what happens to Lemmy enough to fear for the impact it would have on the community if they put your mental needs before basic decency. I kinda hope Lemmy keeps me around and keeps becoming a better place, but I also kinda hope they just turn it into a daycare for people like you, because I will feel kinda bad for you if you fail to get me banned after wasting so much time.