This is one of the more recent

https://www.euronews.com/2024/04/08/shrouded-in-secrecy-sweden-expels-chinese-journalist

I think we have a different view of spying, this can also be Russians just want a prisoner swap.

All intelligence services have people working for them undercover, you can be hired by or talked into doing x and y by an some intelligence service, you can also be asked to share information with them. They can even help you getting in contact with the right people to make what ever you’re trying to do easier.

You can say that a journalist will publish it findings, but also the journalist can do a lot of other things. I mean I can think of multiple things that the CIA would be interested in that is not necessarily related to the journalistic job. Like recruiting a spy inside Wagner, milking information that is a secret: locations, personnel or arsenal. It can also be a damageing story, Russias official stance is that Wagner is not controlled by the state.

Is he a spy? Does he become a spy if he is spying?

Anyways we don’t know, Russia maybe just wants s prisoner swap, and maybe this journalist was digging in places that he shouldn’t have. We arrest Russian and Chinese spies all the time, some of them are working as journalists.

The whole issue is your “if”, basically you don’t know, and you are just guessing. Out of curiosity how do define a spy?

Yeah I agree, it’s impossible to know if he’s a spy or not. He might even not know he had shared intresset with other agencies, someone might have led him closer to Wagner than he initially intended.

But he does raise a lot of questions for the Russian it intelligence.

Do you actually think that intelligence agencies are only in contact with one guy? Why wouldn’t the CIA be interested in a reporter traveling to Russia to do a story about Wagner?

Sure you can, but if your friend does it, work, school, parents etc etc… You are going to end up online without knowing.

Yeah the legalise happens to be in the back pocket of sundar pichai. ???

I haven’t given you a ultimatum I gave you a question, and you can answer it anyway you want. Do or can pedophiles feel remorse for their victims? Are there pedophiles who feel remorse for their victims but still abuse children?

But let me say this again, pedophiles have no remorse towards their victims, they get turned on by it, I’m trying to tell you it’s not a just a sexual desire. They like the abuse part of it, abusing some one helpless, that is why they are turned on by abusing children.

Bro I can’t continue this, you’re not willing to understand it’s not about the kid, it is about abusing the kid, that is what they want. And if you can’t rigster that it’s not just a sexual desire, then we can agree to disagree.

No because its two consenting adults otherwise its illegal. Wtf is vore art, not going to google that. How do you know it’s victimless. Like I said they are turned on by abusing minors, and don’t know how else I can put it, I can’t be more clear.

Let me ask you this, do you think pedophiles care about their victims? If yes, then I want to hear why you think that. If no, why are we even having this argument?

And I’m using the article as an example of that it doesn’t just stop at “victimless” images, because they are not fucking normal people. They are mentally sick, they are sexually turned on by the abuse of a minor, not by the minor but by abusing the minor, sexually.

In what world would a person like that stop at looking at images, they actively search for victims, create groups where they share and discuss abusing minors.

Yes dude, they are fucking dangerous bro, life is not fair. You wouldn’t say the same shit if some one close to you was a victim.

What do you mean focus your energy, how much energy do you think I spend on discussing perverts? And what should I spend my time discussing contact sports. It’s sound like you are deflecting.

Pedophiles get turned on abusing minors, they are mentally sick. It’s not like its a normal sexual desire, they will never stop at watching “victimless” images. Fuck pedophiles they don’t deserve shit, and hope they eat shit he rest of their lives.

For now, if you read the article, it states that he shared the pictures to form like minded groups where they got emboldened and could support each other and legitimize/normalize their perverted thoughts. How about no thanks.

Are you debating just to debate, or do you just fail to see the obvious issue?