The amount of available agricultural land is not a factor? I’m just pointing out that one is more efficient than the other. And will feed more people with a given available space.

I didn’t say it was feasible. Just knocking down an argument that meat is a better choice for feeding more people.

Well, that’s a pretty abyssmal situation in your country and I’m sorry to hear that. I would not argue that not eating meat is better than malnourishment or starvation.

I had a dream that Freddie Mercury didn’t die. But he got middle-aged and fell out of popularity. And I watched him perform on the stage of an elementary school with no band. Singing “Don’t Stop Me Now” while sort of running in place and wearing a suit covered in oversized blue sequins. And he had no confidence in himself. His voice was quiet as he ran through the song. He didn’t look anyone in the eye.

I was deeply affected by this.

https://ourworldindata.org/land-use-diets

I am not vegan. But I’m pretty sure if everyone switched to a plant-based diet it would require significantly less land usage. And thus we could more easily feed everyone. Including those malnourished children.

Probably because there’s an inherent amount of hypocrisy in that argument? Unless they source all their meat very ethically they’re likely supporting factory farms. Which is a lifetime of mistreatment and suffering for an animal. And then they quibble about the amount of suffering at death.

I had a vegan roommate for years. I didn’t cook much meat when he was in the house. But I was never personally vegan. I also did agree that it’s more ethical to not kill for your food, let alone all the other horrors of factory farming. And I’m able to accept that I don’t live up to that more ethical standard.

I think maybe people just don’t like to think someone (especially annoying people) might be doing something better than they are? Like you said, special insecurities.