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    It’s not about how much weight the plane carries so much as flight attendants doing overhead lifting and the risk of one falling out of the overhead locker. Source, I’m on the internet and you read it

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      It’s both, weight starts to become a bigger deal when you factor in that you have to keep it in the air for thousands of km. If airlines could charge people by weight they would in a heartbeat

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        True, but I’m here for human conversations, not just me talking to chatgpt.

        Human interactions can be both good and bad, but its still human interactions.

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        if you made a shitty hand drawing, even in the old mspaint, the thing would be funnier.

        do you think wojack and rage comics were popular for their artistic craftsmanship? or because they seemed relatable as they were apparently made with little skill or effort?

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          Those comics were much more difficult to draw than you imagine. Try it – it isn’t easy. Those memes had their own aesthetics. They weren’t just poorely drawn.

          if you made a shitty hand drawing, even in the old mspaint, the thing would be funnier.

          Bad picture is a bad picture. It might be intentionally bad because of some context, but you can’t make something funnier just by decreasing the quality of illustration.

          I don’t see how you can make OP’s message funnier by worse illustation.

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        it’s been trained on art stolen from people who can draw orders of magnitude better than this

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          Learning isn’t stealing. Humans also learn by looking at different works. By “stealing,” as you call it.

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            there’s such a thing called “copyright”, and using countless pieces of art for free so that a couple of douchebags become gazillionnaires selling copyright infringement on said pieces of art certainly feels like theft

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              Poor gazillionaires (sobbing). Can we donate them? I can send them a few kg of shit. Or some grass, now it is a season for the grass.

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                You’re the one defending the gazillionaires. They’re saying the gazillionaires are the ones profiting from stealing, and they’re right.

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        Last time I checked, there’s no such thing as secondhand calories. If I see a fat dude eating a burger, he’s not harming me or anyone around him.

        Also, making shallow judgements based just on appearances is shitty. You don’t know if they’ve got thyroid issues or some other shit that causes weight gain. Ain’t no disease that forces people to smoke either.

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          yeah, if only we lived in an age where medication made it possible for people with medical problems to treat them and live a normal life. But alas, that’s not our fate. So sad.

          maybe if you as a society started actually being healthy and stopped eating until your heart has to pump with the power of a dozen hydraulic pumps just to circulate your blood we could actually be finding treatments for people that have such medical issues and help them. Instead of telling ourselves that comforting people who have to use pythagoras’ formula to calculate where their legs are because they can’t look down anymore somehow helps those with diseases, we could actually find cures for them.

          And yes, they do impact me. They unnecessarily clog up hospitals taking up vital resources and costing a lot of money, more than smokers (fun fact: Thanks to the high taxes on cigarettes nad their early deaths, smokers are cheaper on the health service than even normal people). Infrastructure also suffers as it needs to be designed around fat people. And we’ve all been unable to sit on a bus while a fat person takes up an entire row for themselves.

          Don’t lie to yourself. Obesity is a problem and it’s manmade. Deep down you know this. If liberalism means that a person is allowed to overeat as much as they want with no regard for how they’re burdening society and those around them, then it also means that I’m allowed to make fun of you for being fat with no regard for how I’m “burdening” them.

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            I agree with your points about medical resources being taken up, but that doesn’t change the fact that a fat trucker isn’t going to give me heart disease by eating gross junk in my presence. My niece, however, did die of lung cancer caused by secondhand smoke so I apologise if I had a bit of a knee-jerk reaction to the smoker example but it is a horrible way to go and I wouldn’t wish it on anyone.

            I never once said that overeating isn’t a problem, a considerable number of people do have a problem with that. I agree with you that more should be done to combat obesity caused by overeating, like making junk food less of a convenient option. Maybe even healthy ready meals for people who work long shifts and just want something easy.

            We can’t tell someone’s history from their waistband. Mistreating people based off assumptions is just bad manners and treating your fellow man with basic courtesy isn’t liberal ffs

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      Ok but hear me out - since when is obesity desirable? I’m all for body shaming of people decide to reduce their weight as a result.

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        Okay and how do you know if you’re bullying one of the bad lazy fatties and not someone with, for example, PCOS or thyroid problems? You think those people don’t have enough trouble without shallow shitheads harassing them for existing?

        Basic human decency should not come with a weight limit.

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        Well I agree with around half of what you’ve just said. Being obese isn’t healthy and everyone who is obese should know that. When people use body positivity to justify the fact that they don’t care about their health they are obviously wrong. What body positivity is about is that people have the right to make decisions over their own bodies and other people should respect that and be emphatetic. Bullying people isn’t being empathetic. I, who normally doesn’t like to use the body shaming arguement felt compelled to write my comment, because I felt that where this post came from also lacked said empathy.

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          It just annoys me when people who are obese as a result of their own unhealthy habits blame the world for being unsuitable for obese people. And many people are like this

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            I know where you’re coming from, but in general “the world being unsuitable” is people lacking empathy and/or bullying people for being overweight. At least that’s what I mostly hear about, overweight people complaining about social pressure.

            And sure there are a lot of overweight people who for some reason feel compelled to constantly rationalize their life choices to people who didn’t ask, but then again if this is the problem so are there a lot of other people from every other group that people regularly critique that do the same.

            But with that being said I think we should point out that as there are few other “groups” one could join voluntarily and the “affiliation” with which is so immediately recognizable to anyone just by looking at you, that I do think overweight people receive a disproportional amount of critique compared to for example smokers. Statistically speaking smoking is more unhealthy and globally it’s even more prevalent than eating unhealthy, but when was the last time you heard someone was getting bullied for lighting a cigarette?

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    Judging by the comments, this is the perfect shitpost. Thank you for the smiles.

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    Downvoted not because of AI but because you didn’t even bother to remove the piss filter.

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    or just drive instead, and bring as much luggage as you want. without paying extra. on your own schedule. and not inhaling 50-100 people and their kids’ disgusting plague germs.

    god, fuck literally everything about flying

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      Then how do you explain the 8kg weight limit for carry on? Who is endagered by 9kg luggage? And it’s not even handled by the staff.

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        honestly I think they also just want an excuse to charge you extra, but the official reason is also safety, to prevent injury if a bag falls out of the overhead compartment during turbulence.

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        The overhead compartments have a weight limit because they must be designed to keep the stuff in there during an emergency.

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            There is a bar or some device that is there to prevent your stuff from sliding forwards. I’ve not been crawling on the airplane floors enough to see any weight rating on it but I would bet money on it being crash tested and rated according to whatever the overhead compartments are.

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    I got very lucky flying this year, always ended up next to an empty seat or even an entire empty row. Until the last flight. Middle seat between two very American sized women who were partially spilling over into my seat.

    Thank god it was just a 30 mins flight.

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      I don’t see the problem with pricing clothes depending on how much material was used.

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        the difference in price would be so small you wouldn’t even care

        the price of your clothing is mostly supply chain “middle-men” taking their share, not the source material nor the people actuality bringing it to shape. especially with synthetic materials

        if it weren’t true (i.e. if the material actually cost that much), stores wouldn’t literally destroy / throw away brand new clothes just to “refresh” every couple of weeks

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      I already pay more for my clothes, namely because only specific brands have my sizes. So yeah, my partner pays way less for clothing. Same with shoes, I have a 48eu and I’m forced to buy expensive brands just because, while my partner can buy cheaper shoes with waaay more choices.

      What’s your point?

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        That for the exact reasons you listed clothes should cost the same for everyone. We shouldn’t charge bigger people extra money for seating on a plane, and you shouldn’t charge people based on clothing sizes.

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          I think we are in agreement, I interpreted your message as if you were supporting the meme above. As in, criticising that fat people don’t pay more in planes or something.

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    This actually makes a lot of sense. It shouldn’t be about fat shaming, but you cant ignore reality and you should make rules based on it. People with normal weight shouldn’t be punished.

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        They are, because they are allowed to bring less total weight onto the plane. (71kg vs 124kg)

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          Nope, they’re allowed to bring as much luggage weight as the others. Total weight doesn’t matter in that regard. Just like how small people are allowed to bring the same as tall people.

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            Total weight doesn’t matter when talking about total weight? What?

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              We are talking about luggage weight. Pretty interesting how you ignore the rest of my post, it’s pretty telling.

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          how is that a punishment? both people can bring the same amount of stuff. if you lose a leg they don’t sudently reward you with more luggage.

          it’s you+luggage,

          are you counting the value of your tickets by how much mass they let you move in total? that would only be worth it if you’re trafficking humans for meat

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      Obesity is a curable disease that people are self responsible for. Drug addicts are shamed and no one cares. Even peoples height (which they have zero control over) is shamed and no one bats an eye. Im not saying you should be rude to overweight people, but there are ridiculous double standards.

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          I never said it made it okay. What you are doing is straw man rhetoric, a manipulative strategy to discredit someone.

          Sowas muss doch nicht sein.

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        Obesity is responsible for many dying much earlier than the normal life span. Though many here want to deny it. If you care about a person who is obese you wouldn’t tell them you’re fine and no need to lose weight. BUT if you encounter obese people you should never say anything about their appearance. And no smirks or dirty looks either. You have no idea what is going on in their life that got them to this point. The cruelest thing is supporting an obese person by telling them it’s just fine. It’s no different then telling an obviously anorexic person that they look great and aren’t too skinny

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        I don’t shame addicts or small or large people either. I only shame those, who find it funny to shame others.

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          Another point I want to make is that body positivity is evil. Telling obese people they are healthy and should feel good about it should be a crime. Are these body positivity people going to cheer on someones first diabetic amputation?

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        counterpoint, fat shaming exists and is just as prevalent (probably more so) than heigh shaming. Another note: The countries with the highest amount of obesity are also the countries with the least amount of regulation and taxes on food processing. Just the same how the countries with the highest rates of drug problems are the ones who don’t focus on rehabilitation and prevention as much as criminalization.

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          Look, most people know that eating 50 burgers isn’t healthy, so stop putting the blame on others.

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            You genuinely think that a majority of obese people are obese because they eat large amounts of food at a time, and not due to the large amounts of trans-fats, sodium and corn syrup used in processed foods? Sounds to me like you’ve never been poor honestly. Never been in a country where natural food is expensive and hard to come by. Consider yourself blessed and keep being ignorant if you so please.

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              No need to get emotional and personal. I would love to see a source on how vegetables are more expensive than junk food and I’ll gladly change my mind.

              Edit: Alternatively you can just downvote my comments and leave. That’ll show me.

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                No ones getting emotional, however saying that phrase is a common tactic of people who are arguing in bad faith.

                However, I’ll entertain your “BUT- BUY SOURCE? SOURCE ? PEER-REVIEWD SOURCE PL0X” since you clearly don’t know how to use a search engine.

                https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9967271/

                Over the three years since 2019, the cost of food and drinks has escalated, particularly in the most recent year, with the prices of healthy foods and drinks increasing at almost double the rate of increase in prices of unhealthy items.

                https://www.cnbc.com/2023/12/27/healthy-foods-are-often-more-expensive-heres-why.html

                “The data very clearly says, there is this fixed high cost for fresh fruit and vegetable, which is not there for other products,” Thijs Van Rens, one of the authors of the Warwick study told CNBC

                https://extension.usu.edu/nutrition/research/does-healthy-eating-cost-more

                A recent study found that following the MyPlate Dietary Guidelines would cost a family of four between $1,000-$1,200 a month ($12,000.00-$14,400 annually) depending on the age of the family members and the percentage of fruits and vegetables that were fresh, frozen, and canned (Mulik & Haynes-Maslow, 2017). For a comparison, the average middle income family in the United States spends roughly $6,224 on food each year with the average low income family spending even less at roughly $3,862 per year (USDA, 2017). With this information in mind, following these recommendations may not be feasible for the typical family.

                And just for good measure let’s throw it back to you. I would love to see a source on how junk food is more expensive than vegetables in countries where obesity is an epidemic. That means no countries that actually tax processed foods to make the healthier option more affordable.

                Edit: and you think Im not going to go out and find the sources? Dumbass.