Hyperbole. This has been going on in ways forever in this country.
Russia and China.
Warmongering never leads to a good outcome
No one wins a civil war.
Yet another post that breaks rule #6.
The rich, because you will still be poor and they will be there to sell you everything once the dust settles.
No one will win because while we are messing around worrying about skin color and genitals – climate change; new pandemics; the collapse of pollinators; the acidification of the oceans; the proliferation of nuclear waste; and other similarly critical issues will remain unaddressed and doom us all.
Some variety of “your pet issue doesn’t matter because my pet issue exists” has got to be the douchiest response regularly made online. There are more than enough bad things going around for different people to focus on one specific thing at a time.
“your pet issue doesn’t matter because my pet issue exists”
That’s not what this is. This is more “your civil war doesn’t matter because we’re all going die”. It’s not an “issue”, “pet” or otherwise. The fact that you think of it that way is why it’s happening.
We’re all going to die, either in wars or starving to death. Within our lifetimes. Don’t you get it?
Yeah, I’ve been trying to learn this sentiment a bit more.
Thousands of us feel overwhelmed looking at and responding to violence. Others are super focused on their recovery work to help the world, and thus end up viewing the arrest of one of their (50) colleagues as a “disturbing inconvenience”.
The world isn’t one single needle that’s either getting worse or better.
This isn’t war. It’s political action.
It’s beginning to be violent political action though. Strategizing in these times and thinking ahead is going to become more important.
Not the USA, that I’m pretty sure of (as a nasty European)
But like other have suggested that’s no civil war. That’s instrumentalized unrest that serves a few specific interests in my, once again, nasty (& very uninformed) European opinion.
I think it mostly depends on which side manages to secure the loyalty of the police and armed forces. Republicans have a pretty big ideological lead among these groups but if they behave illegitimately enough they will lose that fight.
Winners - if there are any - will be some of them who govern some of the fighters.
Losers will be all.
Im sure Trump will always claim to have won.
Hopefully nobody “wins”. I think the best outcome is a kind of peace of Westphalia - After the radicals have all slaughtered each other, the rational middle will carve out a new political process which lowers the horizons of government and allows everyone the kind of freedom of conscience provided by separation of church and state and everyone agrees to just stay out of each other’s way. Maybe this means more power to the states and less centralized federal government, maybe it’s a constitutional amendment which basically keeps everyone on their side of the fence, who knows. But I think the best outcome is when people stop trying to “win” and start trying to live in peace with each other
The whole problem is, there are huge sects of people that refuse to stay out of each other’s way.
They wanted to invade Canada, Mexico, and Greenland. Then they realized first they needed to invade the blue states - the ones that believe in rule of law. The ones that have immigrants and get along with them.
It’s the same type of expansionists, and their loyal poor underlings, present in Russia and in Israel.
And, like westphalia, peace only became an option after the radicals had spent the last 30 years killing each other off. The only people left over afterwards were those who were sick of all the killing
