Denying Israel’s right to exist is not a crime, it’s just antisemitic. If you want to know why, look it up.
Antisemitism is not illegal either.
There is a paragraph in the law against incitement/hate speech but that makes it punishable to speak against any given specific group of people in a way that’s able to disturb the public peace (plus some more factual characteristics, law is complex, read it up for yourself if you’re interested).
This is the first time I’ve come across anyone who is “against feddit.org” for any reason, who and where are all the users and instances you mentioned?
That whole shit about requests from authorities doesn’t work that way. None of it.
Even if all of what you said was true, how does it make feddit.org a zionist instance? Are the mods zionists? All (or a majority of) it’s users? Is the content there zionistic in nature?
You have no idea how german law works and what’s the code of law. Read it up before you comment on it again. There’s https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/ listing up all the legal code of Germany (federal law at least, but crime law is federal and the state equivalents are linked somewhere on that page, too). Have fun.
I don’t agree. Its anti-Zionism. You can be against Zionism but not hate Jews and allow their land somewhere else.
It is de facto. Hate speech, which the government will twist as having Nazi origins.
I am reading up the specifics, because of defining what Volksverhetzung is and what not its vague. But I understand its hard for admins to define the line and imaging having to evaluate every post of every user
There was an debate on @lemmy.dbzer0.com
The second law of NetzDG (don’t know what to call it else).
“A second law, which is in an earlier stage, aims to make it easier for users to report illegal content and challenge content decisions by internet platforms.”
I agree that they don’t request themselves, but they ought to remove and report the content. What content is vague but a lot of things could easily be interpreted as hate speech by the authorities.
“German Penal Code explicitly prohibits hate speech, defined broadly as any expression that denigrates or vilifies individuals based on attributes such as race, ethnicity, religion, or sexual orientation.”
I don’t think so. But this is what other users are claiming about @feddit.org. Hence my post.
Its not my opinion but this was my reasoning on why @feddit.org chose their instance rules and why some people are mad about it.
I don’t really want to argue about what is antisemitism, so I leave it at that. Just note that I find your definitions really weird and concerning.
It is de facto. Hate speech, which the government will twist as having Nazi origins.
Didn’t say antisemitism isn’t hate speech. But hate speech is not illegal per se. Insults are, but only the insults person can press charges. And Volksverhetzung is, which you want to read up.
There was an debate on @lemmy.dbzer0.com
That tells me everything I need to know, thanks. /s
The second law of NetzDG (don’t know what to call it else).
“A second law, which is in an earlier stage, aims to make it easier for users to report illegal content and challenge content decisions by internet platforms.”
I agree that they don’t request themselves, but they ought to remove and report the content. What content is vague but a lot of things could easily be interpreted as hate speech by the authorities.
Again, it’s not about hate speech. A lot of hate speech isn’t punishable. NetzDG is about the punishable cases and makes it easier for users to have existing law enforced. I don’t know how that makes feddit.org a zionist instance.
“German Penal Code explicitly prohibits hate speech, defined broadly as any expression that denigrates or vilifies individuals based on attributes such as race, ethnicity, religion, or sexual orientation.”
That is incomplete. Again, read up on Volksverhetzung. And, if you want, insults (§185 StGB).
I don’t think so. But this is what other users are claiming about @feddit.org. Hence my post.
Its not my opinion but this was my reasoning on why @feddit.org chose their instance rules and why some people are mad about it.
If you don’t agree on feddit.org being a zionist instance and can’t even defend that claim/explain others’ claims, why even make the effort instead of letting OP explain themselves? Only thing you’re doing is open up the doors for strawman arguments. Hence I end the discussion here. I see no point in continuing. Have a nice day.
Well, you could just start. This is what I concluded from what I’ve seen but I am happy to hear what your version is
I’ll keep it brief:
You have no idea how german law works and what’s the code of law. Read it up before you comment on it again. There’s https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/ listing up all the legal code of Germany (federal law at least, but crime law is federal and the state equivalents are linked somewhere on that page, too). Have fun.
I don’t agree. Its anti-Zionism. You can be against Zionism but not hate Jews and allow their land somewhere else.
It is de facto. Hate speech, which the government will twist as having Nazi origins.
I am reading up the specifics, because of defining what Volksverhetzung is and what not its vague. But I understand its hard for admins to define the line and imaging having to evaluate every post of every user
There was an debate on @lemmy.dbzer0.com
The second law of NetzDG (don’t know what to call it else).
“A second law, which is in an earlier stage, aims to make it easier for users to report illegal content and challenge content decisions by internet platforms.”
I agree that they don’t request themselves, but they ought to remove and report the content. What content is vague but a lot of things could easily be interpreted as hate speech by the authorities.
“German Penal Code explicitly prohibits hate speech, defined broadly as any expression that denigrates or vilifies individuals based on attributes such as race, ethnicity, religion, or sexual orientation.”
Its not my opinion but this was my reasoning on why @feddit.org chose their instance rules and why some people are mad about it.
I don’t really want to argue about what is antisemitism, so I leave it at that. Just note that I find your definitions really weird and concerning.
Didn’t say antisemitism isn’t hate speech. But hate speech is not illegal per se. Insults are, but only the insults person can press charges. And Volksverhetzung is, which you want to read up.
That tells me everything I need to know, thanks. /s
Again, it’s not about hate speech. A lot of hate speech isn’t punishable. NetzDG is about the punishable cases and makes it easier for users to have existing law enforced. I don’t know how that makes feddit.org a zionist instance.
That is incomplete. Again, read up on Volksverhetzung. And, if you want, insults (§185 StGB).
If you don’t agree on feddit.org being a zionist instance and can’t even defend that claim/explain others’ claims, why even make the effort instead of letting OP explain themselves? Only thing you’re doing is open up the doors for strawman arguments. Hence I end the discussion here. I see no point in continuing. Have a nice day.
Stop arguing. This dude literally approves genocide on Jews. We don’t have to talk with that troll.
Agree to disagree, here is the shithole its about https://sh.itjust.works/post/37780828?scrollToComments=true
You have a nice day too