With the enshittification of all-things-Google, a lot of us have left Chromium-based browsers for Firefox. But still, over the last 15 years, Firefox has gone from 30%+ market share to about 6% now.

With the big backlash against them over the last week, I’ve seen a number of people advocating for Librewolf and Waterfox – Firefox forks focused on security and privacy – but if Firefox loses what little revenue it has left, what will become of the forks if Firefox dies?

  • dan@upvote.au
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    3 days ago

    Honestly, people are overreacting to the ToS changes. Mozilla haven’t actually changed what they’re doing; they’re just removing text they legally can’t include since the definition of “selling data” varies by jurisdiction. It doesn’t always mean literally selling user data. California is very strict about it for example.

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          23 hours ago

          When you upload or input information through Firefox, you hereby grant us a nonexclusive, royalty-free, worldwide license to use that information to help you navigate, experience, and interact with online content as you indicate with your use of Firefox.

          And they removed the passage that states they will never sell your data

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            22 hours ago

            They already updated it to make the language clearer. This is the new version:

            You give Mozilla the rights necessary to operate Firefox. This includes processing your data as we describe in the Firefox Privacy Notice. It also includes a nonexclusive, royalty-free, worldwide license for the purpose of doing as you request with the content you input in Firefox. This does not give Mozilla any ownership in that content.

            And they removed the passage that states they will never sell your data

            That’s because the definition of “sell data” varies by jurisdiction, so they can’t make that claim (nor can any company that uses ads). In particular, it’s very strict in California’s CCPA, and includes third parties using data for analytical purposes even if no payment is made.