• Emerald@lemmy.world
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    19 days ago

    tehre is no reason to believe non-human animals can participate in an ethical society, so there is no reason to include them in our ethical systems.

    But we do. You mentioned how you ought not to kick a dog, for instance. The difference is that we treat some animals as companions while treating others as resources for exploitation. If you truly believe that there is no reason to be ethical to animals, why not kick that dog? Or maybe boil it alive?

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      19 days ago

      why not kick that dog?

      again, kant discourages cruelty as a practice toward non-human animals, as it may lead to practicing cruelty toward people. that’s it. it’s not including them in our morality.

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          19 days ago

          practicing cruelty is bad, but animal agriculture is not cruelty in and of itself. if a particular operation is acting cruelly, they should be admonished.

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            animal agriculture is not cruelty in and of itself. if a particular operation is acting cruelly, they should be admonished.

            I would argue that animal agriculture is cruelty in and of itself. It’s forcing animals into small cages, forcibly impregnating them, stealing their babies, cutting off their tails, and then painfully murdering them. It’s a cruel operation

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                I can’t make you see the cruelty. That’s something that every person needs to see on their own.

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                    And that’s not something I’ll be able to change your mind on. You can watch some documentaries such as Dominion if you are interested. Just be warned, it’s of course very violent (as animal agriculture inherently is)