• KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    292·
    3 months ago

    What the fuck is the point of the start button in the middle? Like, did they forget why the space to the right of it even exists.

    • pyre@lemmy.worldEnglish
      181·
      3 months ago

      i keep forgetting it’s in the middle by default. first thing i did was change the setting to put it back on the left corner.

      well they essentially copied the Mac dock for no reason. The icons will still go to the right of start but overall the elements will be centered.

            • GreyBeard@lemmy.oneEnglish
              3·
              3 months ago

              In this case the person you were responding to was right. It is where they put their news and weather widget. Which only exists to push people onto Bing. It is annoying, and by default pops up on rollover, not click, so it is trivially easy to accidentally pull up, pumping those Bing engagement numbers.

              • the_crotch@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
                2·
                3 months ago

                I don’t see how centering it changes that. They could just as easily leave the start menu left aligned and put the widgets button next to it

    • Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      16·
      3 months ago

      Yeah, I moved that back the minute I upgraded to 11. It’s much better in the bottom left.

      That change was absolutely idiotic. It reminds me of that time Apple changed the scroll direction. Who ever asked for any of this?

    • TheGrandNagus@lemmy.worldEnglish
      92·
      3 months ago

      Makes sense on ultrawides.

      Also, a start menu that opens in the centre is technically the best. It’s in the most prominent part of the screen, and your mouse typically isn’t far from there.

      The start button is harder to hit than simply flinging it into the corner though, definitely.

      If you’re the kind of person who opens the start menu with the Windows key, a centre start menu is only an upgrade IMO.

      • nyan@lemmy.cafeEnglish
        2·
        3 months ago

        Makes sense on ultrawides.

        In which case, the question becomes: what percentage of users are actually using ultrawides? If it isn’t >50%, then the default should be the setting most appropriate to non-ultrawides. Unless you’re going to autodetect screen resolution and set the button’s location appropriately.

        This is not rocket science, but Windows has been blowing it for quite some time now.

      • Mr. Satan@monyet.ccEnglish
        21·
        3 months ago

        Never thought about ultrawide screens, that makes sense. Other than that I see no improvement whatsoever. Corner space is way easier to hit with a mouse, but even when using keyboard shortcuts having it in the middle is just an additional adjustment from what it used to be.

        An OS should get out of my way and let me do what I do. Changing design language forces me to relearn what I had already had a flow for. In other words it’s utterly useless.

        And I just know I’m gonna hate that automatic categorisation of apps, just as I hate web searches from start menu. Alphabetical order is predictable, but this I’d have to relearn.

        • TheGrandNagus@lemmy.worldEnglish
          4·
          3 months ago

          even when using keyboard shortcuts having it in the middle is just an additional adjustment from what it used to be.

          How? It’s closer to where your mouse will be, and to where your eyes naturally gravitate.

          An OS should get out of my way and let me do what I do.

          Yeah. Windows moved from that path a long time ago.

          • Mr. Satan@monyet.ccEnglish
            1·
            3 months ago

            It’s an easier click target when it’s in the corner. Moving cursor from the middle to the corner is negligible for me since I can reach the whole screen with relatively minor mouse movement.

            In the end it’s a muscle memory thing for me. Having the button in the middle just means I have to look for it in a different location than I’ve used to over the years.

            • TheGrandNagus@lemmy.worldEnglish
              1·
              3 months ago

              Yeah that’s why I said corner is superior if you open it with a mouse, and centre is superior for if you do it with your keyboard.

              • Mr. Satan@monyet.ccEnglish
                1·
                3 months ago

                I wouldn’t consider it superior, just different, in case of a keyboard shortcut.

    • szczuroarturo@programming.devEnglish
      0·
      3 months ago

      I actually use it like that. I dont really see the reason pepole hate it so much. Geniuenly a better place for it (mind you im only talking about placement. The design itself is something else ). Since generaly if you use start menu you focus on it to launch something so it might as well be in tge middle of your screen.