• Kusimulkku@lemm.ee
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    6 months ago

    I didn’t say at all what you should say, I was just noting that what you’re saying isn’t exactly the truth. It wasn’t a value judgement or even advice.

    “if you don’t put the dishes away, I will be forced to take them all outside and bring them in one by one and wash them.”

    If you want help workshopping this you could say that it’s just more convenient to put them away. That’d be true without being very convoluted, if being 100% honest was the goal. Whether it should be or not, imo not.

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      6 months ago

      Most children, I would wager, are not so stupid that when you say something like I said, they will think, “well he must mean that there is literally no other possible option and therefore he is being 100% honest with me.” I know my daughter isn’t. She understands nuance and she understands that means that in our house, we clean dishes with the dishwasher.

      Again, what do you tell your kids? I’m starting to suspect you don’t have any, which is what prompted this conversation.

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        6 months ago

        If they understand that then it seems like you could say that it’s just more convenient and it’d be the same, but also 100% truthful. Assuming that’s the goal.

        Again, what do you tell your kids?

        That it’s more convenient

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          6 months ago

          Yes, again, my child is smart enough to understand nuance. She doesn’t have to have everything put to her 100% literally. I’m not sure why your children do.

          Also, I hope you’re not the one who is responsible for telling your children the difference between things like “honest” and “100% literally true” or they are fucked.

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            6 months ago

            Yes, again, my child is smart enough to understand nuance. She doesn’t have to have everything put to her 100% literally. I’m not sure why your children do.

            Sounds like your daughter might have you beat there since I didn’t say she doesn’t, I didn’t say she does, I didn’t say they do.

            Also, I hope you’re not the one who is responsible for telling your children the difference between things like “honest” and “100% literally true” or they are fucked.

            That’s very sweet of you.

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              6 months ago

              You said I wasn’t being honest with her by not telling her the 100% literal truth. So yeah, you’re saying she doesn’t understand nuance.

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                6 months ago

                I said it’s a lighter lie in that it’s not actually (literally) true.

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                  6 months ago

                  Got it, so if you ask me to do something important for you and I tell you I’m too busy, but when in actual fact, I could quit my job, sell my belongings, move to your city and do it, it’s a lie. Right?