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  • rockerface🇺🇦@lemmy.cafe
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    1 month ago

    Maybe that entire nationality shouldn’t exhibit exclusively traits of an inherently and irredeemably evil species.

    MLs are banning everyone who disagrees with their narrative regardless of rules, and you know it.

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      1 month ago

      Don’t collectively condemn Russians just because their government and most of their boomers suck.

      Like there are a lot of Russians who hate the current situation. But Russia is at a point that speaking out means prison.

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        1 month ago

        My life is literally at risk just by me living and working in Ukraine. Forgive me if I don’t have much sympathy for russians living their lives safely and funding the terrorism with their taxes.

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          1 month ago

          You think many Russians voluntarily joined the military? A lot of them were forced to join the military and there are many political prisoners who protested Putin who were sent to their deaths because they were forced into the military.

          Holy crap dude.

          • rockerface🇺🇦@lemmy.cafe
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            1 month ago

            Way to move the goalposts. I’m talking about the majority of the population that doesn’t give a shit about Ukraine or anything outside of their cozy little lives. The ones that only say something when it personally inconveniences them. The ones that watch their husbands, brothers and sons get killed in a senseless war and move on with their lives, content with the scraps putin throws them.

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                1 month ago

                The remaining 10% are already out of the country and/or contributing to various anarchist organizations. You know full well I’m not lumping those in.

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                  I see you lumping all Russians in in your rhetoric. And we are only speaking of those in the country. There are also millions in former Soviet satellite states. That is why being nuanced is important.

                  And if you meant not all of them, you made no effort to specify.

                  • rockerface🇺🇦@lemmy.cafe
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                    1 month ago

                    Nuanced, then. I condemn all russians who are still proud of being russian, indifferent to the actions of their government and military, and supporting their terrorism financially via taxes. That’s makes up about 99% of them. And the remainder would fully share my anger and grief, since they have to look at the 99% of indifferent shitheads go about their daily lives and whine about gas station queues.

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      1 month ago

      Maybe, maybe not, but in this case you are pretty clearly breaking their rules about no bigotry, and then doubling down on it repeatedly.

      So once again, they definitely got it right this time.

      I’d also point out that this type of rhetoric is an excellent way to make Russian propaganda against the west seem accurate.

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        1 month ago

        Me? That’s not even my post, my guy. Though I agree with OP. Anyone who directly or indirectly supports the terrorist nation (including by inaction) more than deserves to be called an orc and worse.

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          Directly and indirectly, including through inaction, huh? So pretty much every baby in the world is a literal manifestation of evil or worse.

          I rarely take claims of russophobia seriously. You sir are a russophobe.

          • rockerface🇺🇦@lemmy.cafe
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            1 month ago

            You sir must be a really good farmer with how quickly you build strawmen.

            You instantly zero in on anything you can stretch into “bigotry” that is directed against russia but ignore blatant systemic bigotry in support of them. If pointing that out makes me a russophobe, then I’m clearly not trying hard enough.

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              Wtf is “systemic bigotry in support of Russia”? Are you talking about Russian propaganda? Yeah, that’s common. Spreading around is a pretty defining feature of propaganda.

              Because claiming that an entire nationality is fundamentally and irredeemably evil is pretty clearly bigotry.

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                This is you claiming all citizens are military targets

                Second, Israel has what’s called a Schrodinger’s civilian, in that every citizen has undergone military training so in this case I think the settlers count as military.