cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/68754751

There was a time I chose Firefox over the Chromium browser without a second thought. But nowadays, installing and opening Firefox seems like a time-consuming, very bloated experience.

Too many unnecessary features, promotions, sponsored links, and widgets are filled on the homepage. All the settings are now more complex, and there is a lot to set up after a fresh install.

When I compare modern Firefox with Firefox ESR, I feel like I am using browsers like Vivaldi or Opera instead of Firefox. Seriously, Firefox must consider releasing a browser like Brave Origin (Firefox Origin or something).

Isn’t anybody else frustrated with the new Firefox changes? If yes, what practical solutions exist? Debloat using any script or install any forks (no forks seem to be good; some are outdated, some are too much hardened, some are just not for daily browsing, etc.).

I’m just looking for a browser like Ungoogled Chromium but for Firefox (Unmozillaed Firefox).

  • Senal@programming.devEnglish
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    3 hours ago

    edit: well shit, i just realised i used a meme/reference that might have been mistaken for me specifically implying an economic reason not to use mullvad.

    That’s my bad for assuming universal meme knowledge.

    <X>, in this economy? was predominantly used to reference economic reasons to not doing something, it has broadened in scope to encompass the idea that the proceeding statement is nonsensical in general (not just for economic reasons)

    So “mullvad, in this economy ?” roughly translates to “mullvad is a questionable choice in this current (specific or general) context”

    What a strange comment. Can’t say I’ve ever been called a narcissist for recommending privacy browsers before.

    No one was calling you a narcissist, read it again.

    Mullvad is pretty much the most trusted VPN provider. If you don’t want to pay for a VPN, don’t. I explicitly mentioned it is still a good privacy by default Firefox based browser without the bloat of Firefox.

    And my comment had nothing to do with its technical competence (nor it’s economic impact, see note at the top)

    Have you really not seen any stories related to mullvad recently?

    Sure, let’s go through your list, why not.

    Not my list, a list.

    And all of those explanations are the handwaving I mentioned.

    Your take on them all seems reasonable if not exactly the same as mine.

    In aggregate though they indicate a potential pattern.

    My response was specifically to your implication that because their many shenanigans were in the past and nothing was a current problem that we should only judge them on their current technical competence.

    I also noticed you didn’t mention the current CEO and why someone might have an issue with them.

    I just think it’s really weird that Brave gets so much hate when it isn’t warranted when compared to what other browsers do.

    Then you probably aren’t hearing all of what people are actually complaining about.

    hint : they aren’t usually complaining about the technical competence.

    Also other browsers get plenty of shit, a lot of it justifiable.

    Ungoogled Chromium, for example…etc

    All valid, and I agree.

    I could list some you haven’t mentioned as well.

    I personally use a variant of Firefox that has a whole bunch of questionable shit turned off or removed.

    Despite almost all of their recent moves having been to announce some bullshit that actively makes them a worse option for me they are still currently , barely, the least worst option (for my preferences)

    And only then it’s mostly because of the variants.

    What I was getting at is that playing down the continuous bullshit from these companies weakens your arguments.

    It also genuinely seems you don’t see why the non-technical aspects of these companies might be a point of contention for some people.