• Azzu@leminal.space
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    Stealing intellectual property is only a problem because your survival is not guaranteed without it. If you could live a comfortable life no matter what, it would be much better for the whole of humanity if your current IP was simply available to everyone.

    Just imagine if all the duplicate work from competition immediately disappeared and instead everyone in whatever field just shared their insights and built on each other’s work.

    Of course, that only works once everyone’s survival is not dependent on this IP concept anymore. But it should be clear that in an utopian society, IP is just stupid.

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      4 days ago

      Stealing intellectual property is…

      … a nonsense loaded phrase made up by the copyright cartel in order to dishonestly frame the debate.

      In reality, copyright is not ‘property’ and cannot be ‘stolen’ to begin with.

      https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/not-ipr.html

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        Meh, the article mostly argues semantics. Sure “intellectual property” is a loaded phrase, but what is meant by the layperson is just “I made it, I should profit from it”, i.e. copyright. We’re not talking about massive corporations here and hindering right-to-repair, I’m talking to a guy who made something useful (likely software or music or whatever creative) and wants to sell it.

        I agree that talking about it vaguely is not super useful, but this is just a small casual discussion forum, not some legal debate.

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        So a company taking anything you’ve created (posts, memes, videos, art, etc.), and using it to train their AI is perfectly okay, yes?

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          This is disingenious.

          First of all, IP can’t be stolen. In order for something to be stolen, it needs to be taken from you, and you need to be left with nothing. Your TV can be stolen. A copy of something you made is a copy, and you still have the original. You’re not left with nothing.

          Second, AI companies are using your IP to train their AIs, which they then sell and make huge profits, both by selling it back to you and by trying to replace you with it. That is, imo, the worst part about them. Pirating something without any intention to profit from it is not comparable to what AI companies are doing, by far.

          Third, this is about football. It’s already stupid that a company can hold IP rights over a sport event. They’re not even the players who actually “create” the content.

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      It would make it pretty hard to do some kinds of research for a living, though. You’d basically get a small number of open source nerds and their free time fully in charge of, like, curing cancer. There are third options, but that’s why IP was invented in the first place.