His behaviour sure doesn’t help.
He will be the most hated american president SO FAR. I believe in americans, they can do worse.
Remember, George Bush Jr was so hated that Obama got the Nobel Peace Prize simply for not being George Bush Jr.
The only thing scarier than Trump is someone of equal character but actually competent. I wanted to write ten times as competent at first, but then realized that’s the same thing as Trump.
We can and certainly will.
This was my reaction. I read the question and thought “Optimistic much?”
Easily without a doubt. He has the lowest approval rating of any president before he stopped them from tracking it.
Trump is among the worst humans in history.
like mad Roman emperor level.
Raped children, casually murdered 150 school girls, Hitler style Gestapo and concentration camps, unmatched level of corruption…
like worst human in history, the question is maybe if he’s worse than Hitler, not Bush
He has yet to reign over the deaths of millions of people for being in the out-group.
Don’t misunderstand me, Trump is a walking bag of syphilitic, pus filled, nazi cumsocks. But he’s not attained quite the level of warcrimes Hitler did. Not yet anyway.
He’s a solid #2
How many have died because of DOGE’s reckless cuts?
Again, not even close to the number of people the Nazis killed. Auschwitz probably killed more people a month than Trump and his regime have been responsible for to date.
…they estimate that somewhere between 8 and 19 million people could die, including 4.5 million children, by 2030. - NPR
Seems like his holocaust of indifference is well on it"s way to surpass the actual one.
Consider how many people died as effect of his decision (I.e. pulled funding from Africa). I know it’s not same ballpark, but it doesn’t mean it’s fine
How many died through covid because his incompetence?
Not even close to the number the Nazis killed, directly or indirectly.
1.2% of Americans did not survive his covid policies, compared to 0.15% in New Zealand a country that took it seriously. That is over a million excess and needless deaths of US Americans due to Trump’s ego and stupidity.
Not nothing.
But if you want death s in concentration camps more like the Nazis, there are many deaths in ICE concentrations camps, they don’t get access to healthcare and barely enough food. Probably not in the millions, but they are not finished yet.
This is the thing that gets me the most. A million Americans literally died under his watch. What more would it take to make a candidate unelectable for a 2nd term? I was gobsmacked to see it happen.
This is America, what reality matters is that a few Americans made billions on the death of a a million Americans.
Nero-esque
Even Nero was disciplined enough to learn a musical instrument.
I was about to say, this feels like Nero slander
Lmfao, honestly, this thread is making me realize that Trump has a point when he talks about Trump derangement syndrome.
Multiple comments now have compared him to Hitler, which makes you either ignorant of present day reality or grossly ignorant of history.
Like honestly, “casually murdered 150 schoolgirls”. Do you know how many fucking innocent children Bush got killed in Afghanistan and Iraq?? It’s more than 150.
Sure buddy. The thing is that Trumps’ death toll is just getting started and it’s going to be a big one.
Yes, but bush did not go to Esptein, or steal billions. He was bad, but it is a different leage of bad. He is responsible for over a million US exes during COVID. over 1.2% of Americans did not survive his first administration and died directly due to his ego.
or steal billions.
Yes, billions of dollars was funneled from the US government, to defense contractors like Haliburton, explicitly to prop up the corporations of Bush and his friends like Cheney.
He is responsible for over a million US exes during COVID. over 1.2% of Americans did not survive his first administration and died directly due to his ego.
I mean fair point, but his COVID policy was also a direct reflection of the will of a huge amount of the American public. Fox News has more deaths in their hands because of COVID then Trump does if you want to be honest about the origin of the anti-vax attitude. It certainly didn’t start with Trump, though he was in a position to influence change and he didn’t.
I mean, he’s a Nazi presiding over a Nazi government doing Nazi things.
He isn’t as bad as Hitler yet; but Hitler wasn’t as bad as Hitler in the first part of his reign either.
Read the fucking room.
JOIN THE HIVEMIND OR PERISH
Trumplethinskin beckons you to join him.
(Insert that thing from The Simpsons)
No, the most hated US president so far.
Most hated president? He’s on my list of most hated humans.
Hated by who?
As a person, he is absolutely vile and disgusting. For one thing, he raped children and recently killed ~160 school girls. He combines the crookedness of Nixon, the dementia of Reagan, the genius of W and the child molesting of Clinton into one person.
From the perspective of a citizen of a EU country that has blindly followed the US for several decades, I’d like to add one more thing. He is the first president who put a dent in the alliance between the US and Europe and who is really not our friend. He threatened Denmark and Greenland, puts random tariffs on EU products out of spite and worst of all, he appears to be a tool of Vladimir Putin, who has invaded a EU member.
I do not think that ‘hate’ covers what I feel about this absolute piece of human garbage, but he is definitely one of the worst persons currently alive.
Ukraine isn’t an EU member. It’s still a european country though and borders the EU
You are correct.
genius of W
Is that meant to be ironic? 😅
My thoughts as well.
W certainly wasn’t a genius. He had incredible PR people and was lucky people didn’t blame him for being asleep at the wheel and demonstrating massive incompetence during one of the most pivotal events in American History, which he then exploited to put us on our current speedrun to fascism.
Who also sat back while Cheney gave himself no-bid contracts to basically control the middle east.
Indeed. Another example to keep in mind any time someone pretends what’s happening now is anything new, when in reality, it’s just the same corruption that has been slightly repackaged.
I thought I would not need the /s
That’s fair.
One thing I am certain of:
The next Republican president will be worse.
I can’t or won’t even begin to imagine how that could be possible.
Trump is evil and stupid, someone worse would be evil and smart, and there’s plenty of those around.
Trump’s also lazy. He’s casually racist, a casual rapist pedophile. True commitment is much more frightening.
President Steven Miller
Every time I read something like this I get a little closer to ‘No, no I will die before that happens’.
I think he’s the most hated living person in the history of the world, if you go by number of people who hate him. There were less than half as many people around when Hitler was alive.
If we survive Trump. We will be weaker in so many ways. The institutions that underpin our democracy have been severely damaged. I also expect a severe economic downturn over the next few years.
I worry that the next Republican President will be younger more calculating and energetic. They will look at the Trump era as a blueprint for taking permanent political control of an already damaged system.
I believe that the best years of our country are behind us. The erosion of the ethical values of those serving in public office the ‘acceptance of daylight corruption,’ betrayal of our allies, and the attack on education, intellectualism, and renewable energy will set us back for a long time.
Whoever comes next will be blamed for the state of the economy and the government.
There’s just one sliver of hope: When Trump keels over the Republicans will tear each other qpart like cats in a bag. That’s your opportunity. You have to get the right people in, you (the “left of MAGA”, basically normies) will win an easy landslide just that one time…
I’m British and this is what happened here - the right briefly in disaray allowed our centre-left party to win big. Just once… now Labour are blamed for everything and are getting destroyed in the polls.
Isn’t Labour right wing now too?
They’re way left of the Tories and Reform. But yes, that’s what I was getting at with the “right” people. If Americans fight for better Deomcratic candidates between now and 2029 then they have a chance. They’ll win big when Trump goes anyway so the question is: Who benefits?
I’m not from the US or UK, but I assumed that Starmer having directly succeeded Corbyn had a hand in or was beholden to those in Labor who politically assassinated Corbyn. Reading a bit more (Starmer’s Resignation Speech and Corbyn’s Rebuttal | Telegraph.com) I don’t think it’s only unjust blame. I assumed the Labour party got completely ratfucked under Starmer.
But we’re seeing the same rightward and fierce anti-socialistic / anti-pacifist / anti-solidarity push in France and Germany too. Like Labour, the SPD and Greens in Germany also aided and abetted in the genocide in Gaza. What sane party is left to vote for?
In the USA I can’t imagine the Democrats doing any serious reconstruction or “new deal” program to undo the economic, institutional and political damage Trump has done. Not with all the plutocrats, establishment and media against them. Just look at the reaction to Mahdami. Or them shooting themselves in the foot with Platner lol (See this article from 2025 that should have cancelled him).
Honestly, I believe the era of social or liberal democracy is pretty much over. It’s like they are doing everything they can so fascist parties rise and take power. They don’t know how to do anything else. The elites are not dumb, but they are stupid. They’ll accelerate and drive us straight into a global collapse.
The Uncle Rupert propaganda machine.
Max out the Conservative “good” stories and the Labour “bad” stories.
There is a blueprint the heritage foundations project 2025 is over halfway implemented
Amongst the general public, maybe.
Amongst scholars and experts, definitely.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_rankings_of_presidents_of_the_United_States
Yep, at least the most hated since polling, and definitely the most hated in living memory
He’s not the reason why the civilised world sneers at 'Murica, but he’s a huge symptom of it
I never thought I’d see the day when we look back at Reagan and the Bushes as the less-shit of the modern presidents of that backwards shit hole country
He’s not the reason why the civilised world sneers at 'Murica, but he’s a huge symptom of it
As a Canadian, I used to sneer at the US like one would sneer at an immature sibling.
Now, “Made in the USA” feels dirty. I don’t feel like the USA can recover its place of former global respect in my lifetime.
From inside, “Made in the USA” feels like it’s going to be us chained to paying 2x the cost for wildly inferior products. See for example, cars.
It’s going to be from geo group prison labor camps. They’re building them everywhere
Oh, we didn’t deserve that respect in the first place.
I hate trump as much as the next guy, but “backwards shithole?” Don’t cut yourself on that edge, boss.
I spend quite a bit of time in 'Murica, because I have to
It’s backwards, and a shit hole
I’m not saying it like all the people who have never been there, or only been to a couple of places
🙄 I’m sure you’re lovely IRL.
It’s impossible to stress how little your opinion matters
🤣 yeah pal, we’re strangers on the internet, that’s how that works.
I think W Bush painted the world black and white when there is nuance. You’re either with us against us. Started two very unpopular wars and dragged Nato members in. Caused mass immigration to Europe from leading to the raise of people like Bannon, Trump and Farage. The entire far right really. For me, Bush was the catalyst that led us to where we are right now and is the worse president. But even I think I am wrong cause my memory doesn’t go back much further.
And worse of all. Bush didn’t even win. Roger Stone literally stormed the recount, Bushes brother shut the count down and the supreme court went cool, cool, cool. Been hating ever since the shocking lack of democracy in America. And the fact that some anti abortion Gun nut in some swing state determines how many of my friends will die in wars, how much petrol will cost and how much food will cost due to sheer greed of the owner class in America.
So for me. Bush 2. Trump just let the world see the corruption in day light where the others kept it in the dark.
I still think Reagan takes the title.
Reagan deserves every ounce of hate he gets. I dont wish dementia on anyone except him. Rest in piss.
He was the worst at the time but Trump is far worse. Trump’s corruption is unprecedented. Reagan would be called a communist if he ran today. Reagan’s answer to Americans complaining about illegal immigration was amnesty and legal permanent residency for all.
Reagan was crazy enough to sit down and work with people like Tip O’Neil (democrat speaker of the house). I can’t imagine any republican doing that now.
I feel like this was mostly because they hadn’t completely solidified the echo chamber yet, if Reagan were president today I dunno if he’d be better or worse
They sit down and work with PACs all the time.
I think reagan did the most lasting damage
There’s no fucking way Bush is worse than Trump. It’s not even close.
No child left behind leading to a nation without critical thinking. Guantanamo bay. Imprison who the fuck you want without consequence. Making it law to invade the ICC if any American soldier is ever held to accountability. Crashing the entire global economy by relaxing laws on banks and investors. I mean Bush was pretty awful. Trump is just dumb as bricks walking in the same path set by Bush.
The bank thing that lead to the eventual collapse was a Clinton thing.
Trust me, I know how bad Bush was. I was there.
its not a contest and its pointless to think otherwise. Anyone who thinks positively of either is an uneducated degenerate dumbass who should never vote in any election until they completely update their worldview at best
I think it’s very close.
Bush launched two wars where the US invaded countries in the Middle East, leading to decades of destabilization in the region and leading to millions dead. His admin coincided with the rise of Fox News and conservative punditry outside talk radio. Patriot act, tax cuts, oversaw the recession, etc.
Israel’s genocide started under Biden, so I can’t exactly put that on Trump even if he’s supported it. This quagmire with Iran isn’t as big as the invasions were.
Trump’s been more damaging domestically with his scotus appointments and emboldening racists, but if you look outside just the US, then yeah I think you can definitely make the argument that Bush was worse.
I say people like Rupert Murdoch and Roger Ailes seeded the culture that led to the modern right wing.
You can go almost anywhere on Earth and say “I can’t wait to read that obituary” in the local language, and people will know who you’re talking about. We haven’t had that since Hitler
He’s likely the most hated US citizen.
Dumbest - yes Most incompetent - yes Most corrupt - yes Most criminal - yes Most hated? - not yet
Because of the fucking cult base he’s created, whose loyalty is reinforced by faux news, and do not question anything he says.
