• BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world
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    22 hours ago

    Waste heat is high entropy alredy. You can’t extract any meaningful energy out of it.

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      22 hours ago

      Ah yes, famously we have never been able to do anything with heat energy…

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        22 hours ago

        It’s not my fault you don’t understand physics and think that all heat=free energy. You can’t extract shit without big temperature difference.

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          21 hours ago

          Yeah if only you had enough excess heat in one area to increase the local temperature of an already very hot place by 4 degrees.

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            21 hours ago

            If you plug the numbers into the Carnot equation, it looks like the maximum theoretical efficiency of a thermoelectric generator or heat engine operating at that temperature gradient is about 0.75%. And, I could be wrong, but my assumption would be any attempt to reclaim that energy would slow its exchange and potentially bottleneck a cooling system to some extent.

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              19 hours ago

              The issue is you are using 4 degrees as the delta of temp, when that is the ambient area temp change. The very localized heat being generated on site (and already nicely conveyed in heat management systems) is going to be a lot more then 4. Also why would you be always using a thermometric generator? They are not know to be efficient.

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                16 hours ago

                Good point about the local temperature delta… I kind of lost sight of that in the discussion. But my understanding of that equation is it would be the maximum theoretical efficiency of any thermal generator as it represents an idealized heat engine.

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              20 hours ago

              I mean good, we should do everything possible to make these data centers as unnefficient as they are unnecessary.

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            21 hours ago

            4 degrees Fahrenheit is nothing. For all practical energy production puropses it’s worthless