• wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz
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    20 hours ago

    Wait, did you just move the goalposts? I thought the issue we were talking about was open-source developers who use LLM-generated code and unwittingly commit changes that contain allegedly closed-source snippets from the LLM’s training data.

    Now you want to talk about LLM training data that uses open-source code, and then closed-source developers commit changes that contain snippets of GPL code? That’s fine. It’s a change of topic, but we can talk about that too.

    Just don’t expect what I said before about the previous topic of discussion to apply to the new topic. If we’re talking about something different now, I get to say different things. That’s how it works.

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      11 hours ago

      I was responding specifically to this part

      But if an LLM regurgitates closed-source code from its training data, I just can’t see any way how that would be the developer’s fault…

      showing what would happen when the llm regurgitates open source code into close source projects.

      Sorry if you didn’t like that.

      • wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz
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        1 hour ago

        But you flipped the situation, making it an entirely different discussion, and then you went on as if you thought my previous point was still supposed to apply to the new topic that you introduced.

        It’s not that I don’t like it; we can talk about the issues with training commercial LLMs on GPL code. It was just an unannounced change of topic. Like you were trying to score points, so you brought up something irrelevant to pretend I’m arguing against, which I wasn’t.

        Corporations have been able to steal open-source code without the help of AI, and the same issues arise due to lack of transparency. It’s a problem, sure, but it wasn’t the problem we were discussing. And you acting like I’m somehow arguing against it being a problem is a strawman, because it’s not what the thing I said was in reference to.