Approximate location, price and date?

Edit: report back in a week any change if you remember.

E2: went up 9¢ since I posted this morning. $3.19 now.

E3: $3.30 now. ~20¢ in a day, 50¢ in 4 days.

  • Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works
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    4 days ago

    I mean it’s the classic revolutionary’s dilemma – does bringing the system down, which causes incredible amounts of death and suffering for the poor, worth it in the long run? IMHO it never is, because the system always finds the most painful and evil ways to go down, with no guarantee the next system is any better.

    Ideally the system itself improves over time like we saw happen in the 20th century in a lot of other countries, and social democracy takes over peacefully. But sometimes the capitalists won’t let that happen and insist on a tragic and violent decline instead.

    • Hazy@aussie.zone
      1·
      2 days ago

      The system didn’t improve itself peacefully throughout the 20th century bro wtf are you smoking

      • Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works
        1·
        2 days ago

        Yes but there’s different levels of violence. Some countries had more violent deadly revolutions than others. Maybe India is the main example, yes too many people died but it wasn’t on the level of some other revolutions and wars.

        • Hazy@aussie.zone
          1·
          22 hours ago

          I think your whole pov is confused. You want the system to improve itself peacefully but acknowledge to some extent that’s not what improved it before. You don’t want a proper revolution but instead small incremental improvements yet don’t seem to understand the way things are now is a logical result of how our current system is structured. Tbh your viewpoint here just seems kind of naive.

          • Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works
            1·
            9 hours ago

            Well what I want doesn’t matter because I have no power. Are you saying peaceful gradual change never works at all? I agree it’s not working in the US at all. But ultimately it’s because that what those in power want. It would be a lot better if they allowed peaceful improvements, like has happened in other countries, that’s what I’m saying. There’s also plenty of “proper revolutions” that end up with rich getting richer and poor getting poorer.

    • eldavi@lemmy.mlEnglish
      2·
      3 days ago

      with no guarantee the next system is any better.

      there are living, breathing examples of better systems out there.