• chasteinsect@programming.dev
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    19 hours ago

    Maybe just maybe it’s because it’s not as black or white as you make it seem? Especially talking about a company that did so much for Linux and looking at what their competition is doing…

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      18 hours ago

      So it’s ok for you to have 10 years old developing a gambling habit and potentially ruining their live, because hey they are pushing Linux in gaming?

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        17 hours ago

        I feel like you’re straw-manning here.

        I never said it’s okay. All I’m saying is that a mega-corporation can simultaneously exploit psychological loopholes for profit (loot boxes) while actively pushing open-source ecosystems (Linux), providing great value to consumers and fighting other pc gaming monopolies (Microsoft). Look at the whole picture.

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          16 hours ago

          Do you consider that it is morally acceptable to push thousands of kids into gambling addiction because you are doing more than Microsoft for Linux in the gaming world?

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            4 hours ago

            It’s not.

            Look, you are not necessarily wrong in holding the opinion that Valve’s monetization practices are so horrible, that they ruin the company’s entire reputation. It’s a valid moral boundary. But at the end of the day, it’s just an opinion, not some objective law of the universe and other people can weigh the scales differently without being an evil person. Yet you portray it as the TRUTH. And it’s a bit ironic, that when people disagreed you started talking about echo chambers and attacking the community. This is why you got downvoted.

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              Wtf is wrong with you, lot? It seems like when you say “valve is a shitty company” is the equivalent of saying “gaben is evil incarnate and eats baby for breakfast”.

              I’m starting to get sick of red pilled people commenting here saying it is an extremist view to say that a company is shitty because they have shitty practices. I’m done responding if that’s your comment, so spare us both time. All you’re doing is either purposefully misinterpreting my comment or acting like fan boys.

              It’s not difficult or controversial. Does valve make some good things? Yes. Do they make shitty things? Yes. Not hard.

              Plus, I truly think most of the people here are completely ignorant of the issue and should probably look into Coffeezilla series before commenting.

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                3 hours ago

                Valve is a shitty company.

                Does valve make some good things? Yes. Do they make shitty things? Yes. Not hard.

                You just stated the exact nuanced position I was defending from the very beginning, while simultaneously insulting me for holding it 😂

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                  3 hours ago

                  No, you cannot say that Valve is a shitty company. And your entire post is trying to make it sound like saying it is an extremist point of view.

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            13 hours ago

            So you’re saying that since a company is reprehensible in one area, all their other accomplishments should be judged accordingly?

            Makes sense to me.