• unfreeradical@slrpnk.net
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    What is it you want to prove for yourself?

    You seem to be searching for some straightforward and unambiguous proof that you are right, whereas I consider it completely right that you were called out for acting as a mouthpiece of Israel and Zionism.

    It would be best for you to let go of your need for the world to be explained in terms that are black and while.

    At least one thing really is simple, though. If you want not to be called a mouthpiece of Israel, then you should stop acting as one.

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      1 day ago

      Tell me what words I used that misaligns with accepted fact then.

      You’re falsely accusing me of something. Prove it, liar.

      You said I stated something untrue. Quote it.

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        Respecting the October 7 attacks, limited details are reliably known.

        It is known that both Hamas and Israeli combatants perpetrated attacks, and it is known that many people were killed, including many Israelis.

        It is known that Hamas taking hostages was planned as a important component of the mission, and that it was successful.

        The claims of sexual assault have now been almost completely dismissed, many as completely lacking credibility, others as not supported adequately by evidence. Israel’s dishonest and obstructive conduct has obscured the truth, probably irredeemably.

        Even generously accepting some of the evidence offered for sexual assault, it would remain unknown whether such acts were spontaneous choices by individuals, or ordered by higher tiers of command.

        Furthermore, it is unknown how many of the Israelis who were killed died as a consequence of Israeli fire.

        Regardless of your sense of intention, I feel it is right that you were called out for acting as mouthpiece of Israel and Zionism.

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            You know what you wrote. Stop being obstinate.

            I stand by my characterizations, regarding the allegations you repeated, as well as regarding issues more personal.

            The truth is we don’t know what happened, and you find it hard to accept a world with uncertainty and nuance.

            You find it hard to accept that there is not always a clear path to proving yourself right and proving someone else wrong.

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              Yup, exactly. I know exactly what I wrote which is why I can be so confident that I caught you in a lie.

              Quote it.

              Oh I also forgot to add kidnapping and murdering babies to the list of things you sick fucks like for some reason.

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                You’re an insufferable child, completely irresponsible and locked in narrow loops of self importance.

                The discussion now completely lacks any chance of becoming constructive.

                You can take your animosity elsewhere.

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                  Look how hostile you have to get because you simply cannot quote the thing you so obviously lied about.

                  Disgusting that you just blatantly lie and gaslight like this. Is that your form of imperfect resistance?

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                    I very patiently and politely tried steer the conversation beyond the counterproductive space of your singlemindedly trying to prove yourself right.

                    There, I’ve added one more comment, so it is no longer necessary that the last one is on a sour note.