I hope this post fits the content and format of this community, if not I’m sorry.
I’m just incredibly shocked by the fact that an admin of the instance lemmy.dbzer0.com is openly supporting Hamas.
Here’s a link to the comment: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/61235665/23634712
Oh don’t give me that cop out bullshit. We both know I’m not the one being disingenuous here. I asked you the most direct, straightforward, and central question in this entire discussion… and you didn’t answer it at all. You ignored it and went back to repeating the same shit again and again like a broken record.
I’ll ask again, what has Hamas done to resist Israel? You’re all over this thread explicitly voicing your support for Hamas. When people rightfully asked you why, your answer is that they’re a “resistance group”. That is your entire justification, that is your core point, your central argument. I said fine, I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and have you explain yourself. Explain to me how, when, and where has Hamas resisted Israel? Once again, I’m giving you the floor to give your case because you didn’t do nothing on it last time.
The reason why I’m asking you because I’m genuinely baffled that people like you exist. I want you to explain to me where the substance behind your claims lie because I don’t see it. Hamas has been in power for 20 years, what have they done to resist Israel? I cannot think of anything whatsoever besides them launching a bunch of rockets that hit nowhere and terrorist attacks that targeted civilians. Every single time they did anything, they got Israel to bomb the shit out of them and advance their goals. It’s the epitome of taking 1 step forward and then 100 steps back.
Their crown achievement was supposed to be the Oct 7th terrorist attacks. Them massacring a bunch of civilians at a music festival and nearby villages and taking hostages was the absolute peak of their “resistance”. Not even 24 hours later, Israel pushed them back into Gaza and then started their campaign of turning Gaza into hell on earth. It’s been over 2 years now. Israel has bulldozed the entirety of the strip, captured all the of the territory, killed tens of thousands of people, cut off all aid and utilities, and they have successfully achieved virtually all of their initial goals one by one. Where’s the Hamas resistance during all this? There isn’t even a symbolic resistance let alone an effective one. Their resistance can accurately be assessed as negative.
I cannot do any more than repeat my explanation one last time, that you are anchored to a straw man.
The basic facts are exceedingly simple. Hamas, a faction of Palestinians, is engaged in an armed struggle with Israel, which is perpetrating atrocities against Palestine.
Such an uncontroversial observation should not provoke such confusion or hostility.
Of course, it would be more favorable for Palestine to have the means of acquiring more potent military capacities.
If you want to ask a question, then please find one that is not meaningless within the context.
You can’t answer my question because you don’t have an answer, and the reason for that is that you know you’re lying and can’t admit it.
I asked a very simple, direct, and straightforward question. It’s not a loaded question, it’s very much relevant, and it’s literally the reason why we’re having the discussion. I’m literally asking you to back up your claims, and you just can’t do it.
Unlike you, I actually gave my explanation. I actually provided examples and went in depth, and I gave you multiple chances to do the same, but you chose not to. The fact that you’re trying so hard to weasel out of this question like greasy rat instead of just directly addressing it tells me that you won’t ever actually provide anything ever.
At this point I’m 95% sure you’re a troll.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man
Actually read the article you posted because you clearly don’t know what the fallacy even is.
What is my mistake?
A strawman is a specific fallacy where a person intentionally misinterprets someone’s agruement and then agrues against that misinterpretation. I did no such thing. Again, read the link you posted.
Intention is not normally considered a necessary condition for the characterization as a straw man.
Regardless of the specific term, any misrepresentation or misinterpretation is equally counterproductive regardless of intention.
Instead of defending your intention, perhaps try reflecting on whether you made any mistakes.
Moreover, the one who offers an argument is the one whose intended meaning is relevant in discussing the argument. When someone claims you have attacked a straw man, it is best to reengage with your own intention of genuinely understanding the intention of the argument you attacked. Instead, you have dug in your heels, only interested in finding a way to prove yourself right, and to prove someone else wrong.
Blah blah blah more incoherent ramblings from the moron who refuses to defend the very claims they’re parroting. At this point you’re just wasting my time. I can already tell that you’re full of shit, you know you are, and you have no intention of actually getting back on topic. Go troll elsewhere.
ICE is just performing imperfect border security.
Such an uncontroversial observation should not provoke such confusion or hostility.
ICE is not resisting a colonial aggressor. ICE is not fighting an antagonist perpetrating atrocities. ICE is not representing a people who have lived under siege their whole lives.
Keep trying.
Also note, ICE operates concentration camps and perpetrates forced disappearances
“Border security” is a sham, because freer borders would present no genuine threat.
Wow, so you’re against legal immigration, and defending people against foreign invasions. Crazy.
Wut?
You’re spreading debunked propaganda to claim that ICE is doing anything more than imperfectly standing up for their citizens.
Bye, troll.
The absolute irony is almost deafening.
Have fun simping for terrorists!