I don’t get why people think that any company for that matter would go to jail for a random dude online. They do hand over metadata and everything else is encrypted. Not even Proton can access that data. When served with a court order they have to hand it over. Now if it were GMail, they’d probably make a collage with your pics and share them. That’s the difference.
Because, running such services costs money. And this is not a charitable organisation. GMail does this for free because they’re making money off of you with ads and by selling your data.
I really don’t get why this is so difficult to understand.
Would you run a cafe offering free coffee?
Everybody has their reasons and it doesn’t have to make sense to anyone else especially to a random person online like me. But just out of curiosity, what were you doing? If you don’t mind sharing it.
I don’t want a debate; I’m just telling you you’re wrong, something very close to that and more involved does exist, I personally have executed on it, and you almost certainly wouldn’t understand why I did it.
So you are wrong, the world is bigger than you think, and the example of what you thought was hyperbole is a thing someone who randomly saw your Lemmy comment had basically done before.
And that you have a poor grasp of what motivates people.
Lol. It’s really difficult to take anything you say seriously anymore because you claim to have figured out everything about someone online with just a few sentences, basically classifying you along the lines of a troll. So I hope you succeed in your ventures and wish you a very happy new year.
Basically comparing apples to oranges. Mullvad just does one thing or maybe two if you include the browser. Proton operates on a different scale. There’s going to be some data generated if you expect to use the whole suite without running into issues. I’ll accept your argument when mullvad operates on a similar scale with the same opsec.
I don’t get why people think that any company for that matter would go to jail for a random dude online. They do hand over metadata and everything else is encrypted. Not even Proton can access that data. When served with a court order they have to hand it over. Now if it were GMail, they’d probably make a collage with your pics and share them. That’s the difference.
Yeah but why would I pay for it?
Because, running such services costs money. And this is not a charitable organisation. GMail does this for free because they’re making money off of you with ads and by selling your data.
I really don’t get why this is so difficult to understand. Would you run a cafe offering free coffee?
I actually did something pretty similar for a year or so, and I expect my reasons would be incomprehensible to you.
Everybody has their reasons and it doesn’t have to make sense to anyone else especially to a random person online like me. But just out of curiosity, what were you doing? If you don’t mind sharing it.
It was a little more involved, and it’s too identifiable.
Well if you can’t mention it, then there’s no debate.
I don’t want a debate; I’m just telling you you’re wrong, something very close to that and more involved does exist, I personally have executed on it, and you almost certainly wouldn’t understand why I did it.
So you are wrong, the world is bigger than you think, and the example of what you thought was hyperbole is a thing someone who randomly saw your Lemmy comment had basically done before.
And that you have a poor grasp of what motivates people.
Lol. It’s really difficult to take anything you say seriously anymore because you claim to have figured out everything about someone online with just a few sentences, basically classifying you along the lines of a troll. So I hope you succeed in your ventures and wish you a very happy new year.
Don’t collect data and there’s nothing to handover https://mullvad.net/en/blog/mullvad-vpn-was-subject-to-a-search-warrant-customer-data-not-compromised
Basically comparing apples to oranges. Mullvad just does one thing or maybe two if you include the browser. Proton operates on a different scale. There’s going to be some data generated if you expect to use the whole suite without running into issues. I’ll accept your argument when mullvad operates on a similar scale with the same opsec.
I’m not buying ‘they need data cos they offer more products’. The companies have made different choices in how they build their software.