The OS is a component of the whole product by Apple’s own reporting and marketing material. If you bought a Macbook directly from Apple and it came without MacOS preinstalled, would you consider that a fulfilled transaction?
Alright Theseus, how many components of a macbook need to be removed until you’re no longer buying a macbook? Would you be satisfied receiving an empty box since the monitor, CPU, motherboard etc. are not individually itemised on your receipt for a MacBook?
By the way, when you buy pretty much any PC laptop, I’ve ever seen, the cost of the Windows license is definitely itemized on the invoice and receipt. Since macOS has no cost and is free, that’s why it’s not listed.
Of course, all of those other components you listed are itemized on an Apple invoice, especially if you have to pay extra for upgrades.
I own and use Apple products. That’s how I know you’re talking bollocks. You also realised at some point that you were talking bollocks, which is why you’re now pivoting to absolutely absurd responses to pretend this is some elaborate troll attempt.
Your argument hinges on the fact that it doesn’t appear on your receipt. Neither do any of the components of my M1 Macbook Pro other than the optional extras that I selected. By your logic I only paid for the itemised extras.
You’re arguing that any perks tied to a purchase aren’t actually factored into the cost, which is certainly a mindset that some people have and those people are the kinds of consumers that give marketers wet dreams.
A “free” perk that has the implicit requirement of buying into the company’s ecosystem - whether through a software subscription or purchasing proprietary hardware - is not free. You’ve already paid into the ecosystem and there is no additional cost.
Your argument hinges on the fact that it doesn’t appear on your receipt
No, it doesn’t. I was responding to your argument, putting out how it made no sense.
You’re arguing that any perks tied to a purchase aren’t actually factored into the cost
No, I’m not. others are arguing that it does affect the cost, however, no one has provided any evidence of this beyond speculation and guessing.
A “free” perk that has the implicit requirement of buying into the company’s ecosystem - whether through a software subscription or purchasing proprietary hardware - is not free. You’ve already paid into the ecosystem and there is no additional cost.
This is an opinion, not a fact. And it’s certainly not backed up by any evidence in this case.
It give me only reason you think I’m wrong is because you have no idea what I said.
If including it with a paid product has a cost for the manufacturer, then you did pay for it as a part of the price of the product which you did pay for.
The entire forum has already proved the point that you’re wrong. You’re incapable of understanding that you lost. An economics teacher might be able to get it into your head.
I don’t see how cars and engines have anything to do with the fact that macOS is free.
And, yeah, if it’s not listed on a receipt as something I paid for, you can’t argue that I paid for it. Or that anyone did. That’s absurd.
The OS is a component of the whole product by Apple’s own reporting and marketing material. If you bought a Macbook directly from Apple and it came without MacOS preinstalled, would you consider that a fulfilled transaction?
None of this means that macOS costs money. You’re spinning a pretty crazy fantasy here to try to disapprove the fact that macOS is free.
“It costs money because something else costs money!” is a nonsense absurd argument
Alright Theseus, how many components of a macbook need to be removed until you’re no longer buying a macbook? Would you be satisfied receiving an empty box since the monitor, CPU, motherboard etc. are not individually itemised on your receipt for a MacBook?
Oh, I see. You just hate Apple.
That doesn’t mean that macOS isn’t free. It is.
By the way, when you buy pretty much any PC laptop, I’ve ever seen, the cost of the Windows license is definitely itemized on the invoice and receipt. Since macOS has no cost and is free, that’s why it’s not listed.
Of course, all of those other components you listed are itemized on an Apple invoice, especially if you have to pay extra for upgrades.
Your entire argument is nonsense
I own and use Apple products. That’s how I know you’re talking bollocks. You also realised at some point that you were talking bollocks, which is why you’re now pivoting to absolutely absurd responses to pretend this is some elaborate troll attempt.
I’m not pivoting to anything. Stating the same thing I always have: macOS is free.
You’re welcome to try to prove otherwise, but since it’s an objective fact, you’re probably going to run to the same issues everyone else here has.
Your argument hinges on the fact that it doesn’t appear on your receipt. Neither do any of the components of my M1 Macbook Pro other than the optional extras that I selected. By your logic I only paid for the itemised extras.
You’re arguing that any perks tied to a purchase aren’t actually factored into the cost, which is certainly a mindset that some people have and those people are the kinds of consumers that give marketers wet dreams.
A “free” perk that has the implicit requirement of buying into the company’s ecosystem - whether through a software subscription or purchasing proprietary hardware - is not free. You’ve already paid into the ecosystem and there is no additional cost.
No, it doesn’t. I was responding to your argument, putting out how it made no sense.
No, I’m not. others are arguing that it does affect the cost, however, no one has provided any evidence of this beyond speculation and guessing.
This is an opinion, not a fact. And it’s certainly not backed up by any evidence in this case.
It give me only reason you think I’m wrong is because you have no idea what I said.
If including it with a paid product has a cost for the manufacturer, then you did pay for it as a part of the price of the product which you did pay for.
That’s a guess, not evidence of your claim.
Go take an economics class
Why should it be my job to prove your point? Your failure is your own.
The entire forum has already proved the point that you’re wrong. You’re incapable of understanding that you lost. An economics teacher might be able to get it into your head.
Of course, nobody proved that was wrong. Because no one provided any evidence.
lol
“the official license isn’t evidence, and I’m a clown”
Nowhere in the license does it say that macOS cost money.
So, no, it’s not evidence of what you claim.