• inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    ITT: Assholes asking “ironically” for deepfakes.

    Yeah I get the sunny references, but the reason you are all thinking the same thing is because y’all acting like Mac. Who to be clear, was a giant PoS for asking the question. It should be a big ass red flag when you emulate the gang.

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      Making a joke referencing a character on a TV show doesn’t make you the same as that character.

      I sometimes say “one million dollars” then raise my pinkie to my mouth, but that doesn’t mean I want to mass genocide planet earth like Doctor Evil lol

      Most of the time, a joke is just a joke.

      • inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world
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        7 months ago

        Uh huh.

        But what’s the joke? Why is it funny? That people are asking for the link? The reason that so many people are making this joke is because they read the headline and wanted to know which site. So they came to the comments, and quoted Mac because his scene is the most well known reference to what they were doing. This isn’t like Dr. Evil, Mac heard about revenge porn and wanted to see, and bunch of dorks heard about deepfakes and “joke” about wanting to see.

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          Are you genuinely new to people referencing TV shows/films they like?

          and quoted Mac because his scene is the most well known reference to what they were doing

          Or they just referenced a joke on a TV show, seeing that this situation is similar. People make jokes. You don’t need to concoct a conspiracy theory that all the jokers aren’t actually joking and they’re really perverted creeps.

          I often reference Sunny’s “because of the implication” scene (if you don’t know of it I’m sure it’s on YouTube). Believe it or not, I do so because I like referencing TV shows I watch, not because I want to trick women into having sex with me on a boat under the perceived threat of violence/murder.

          I don’t appreciate you making rather awful accusations of people (that they’re sex pests), completely baselessly, because they quoted a damn TV show. You can’t read minds, you’ve just jumped to the most evil possible interpretation of what others are doing, rather than the most likely: that they’re making a joke.

          Maybe you enjoy acting puritanical and holier-than-thou. Or maybe you’re just naturally quite cynical and you’re assuming the worst in people. Either way it’s not very kind.

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            Maybe you enjoy acting puritanical and holier-than-thou

            Honestly, right back at yeah. Calling me a prude is just your way of playing dumb about the situation. Your “holier than thou” is “understanding a joke more than thou”.

            That they’re making a joke

            The joke is that their asking. “Because of the implication” and “one million dollars” are over the top because you’re not holding the world ransom and you aren’t planning to pressure someone into sex. You use those in situation where it doesn’t apply and that’s the humor.

            But clicking a link is absolutely within the realm of possibility. Like, read the damn article. Lots of people were using the site/app, people here were asking for the same reason. Whitewashing it through pop culture doesn’t change that they are literally asking for the link.

            It’s naive to think that anonymous users on lemmy would somehow never deep fake, nor pursue the content. My comment was to shame those tempted to do so, if you wish to think me unkind for that, so be it.

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                As I’ve said so many times, it’s not a joke if you are literally asking. If you are in a boat and tell your GF that she shouldn’t say no to you because of the implication, then that’s not a joke. And if you come to a thread about banned deep fake sites and ask for the link it’s not a joke.Even Dennis himself hides behind this logic that “obviously she is in no danger”, but that ignores the real threats women have to live with every day. Women don’t get to assume that every implication rape threat is a joke because the risk is too great, it always going to be real to the subject without power.

                You already admitted in a different comment that some of the people here were looking for a link. So why exactly are you so upset at me? Is your right to assume it’d always a joke out ranked by my concern at yet another way for women to be sexually harassed? Before it was simply any woman who posted nudes online had to know it would be online forever. But now any woman who has ever posted, or hell even went outside where a camera was now runs the risk of her nudes being posted?

                But I guess you feeling hurt over “jokes” is the real problem?!? Like seriously, let it tf go. The lame jokes don’t need to be defended and I’m not the jolly joy villian you are making me out to be.

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        7 months ago

        The scale and ease of use is the real problem. Anyone who would draw pictures of women they know naked to jerk off to is obviously a creep. But that’s a creep who had to spend years of their lives practicing to draw realistic bodies. Not literally any person who happens to have a folder full of their Facebook friends.

        Like roll the clock back and pretend this is about the dangers of cars running people over. When there is only a couple cars out there it’s easy to say “But what about the horses that run people over”, but fast forward to today and death by auto wildly outranks death by horse. Horses and car deaths are still a problem, but citing horses as to why car deaths aren’t so bad is ludicrous, disengenerous and asinine

        Two things can be a problem, but easily accessible deep faking by anyone with a boner and a spare minute is not the same to someone spending hours over a suacy oil painting.

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        7 months ago

        I’d point you to the space episode of Black Mirror.

        Personally, don’t know. I’m pretty liberal and I’d be flattered if someone had deep fake nudes of me.

        But I understand the counter argument.

        It’s a weird moral conundrum.