• ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net
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    12 hours ago

    For anyone confused about this. The goal here is not to have a working system but to have an excuse.

    Before this, if a bomb was dropped on an embassy or a school you had to have an internal investigation and blame someone for it. Someone was responsible. Not that anyone was actually convicted or anything but someone’s career might stumble, they might miss promotion or something.

    With this system you simply say “AI failed”. You can drop bombs left and right and no one is ever accountable. You can’t punish AI.

    It’s the same as when they qualified every fighting age male as militant. Suddenly there was a lot less civilian deaths because no one was counted as a civilian. Now instead of looking for “fighting age males” they can drop bomb absolutely anywhere and say “AI marked it as a valid target”.

    • Esp@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      3 hours ago

      Honestly this, it feels like the real reason AI has been pushed so hard across the board is just accountability shifting. From healthcare denials to literal war crimes, doesn’t matter, an “AI” “did it” so suddenly no one is to blame.

      Of course, in a functioning society we would just say the people who enacted the decision of blindly trusting the black box is the perpetrator, but we don’t, so…

  • teft@piefed.social
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    2 days ago

    I really hope at Nuremberg 2.0 that “I was just following the AI” gets as much punishment as “I was just following orders”.

  • Jiral@lemmy.org
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    2 days ago

    I think the legal questions should be fairly simple. The company selling the AI service should be liable for every error made and by that I mean all the way up to the management into the CEO’s office. Of course, that will never happen but it should happen.

    • RoddyStiggs@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      11 hours ago

      The PEOPLE who created the AI are liable.

      Dissolve and liquidate the company, obviously.

      Then you start charging the employees with murder.

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      2 days ago

      The consequences can’t simply be monetary, because these people are stupidly wealthy. If they’re found culpable, send them to prison.

        • Jiral@lemmy.org
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          1 day ago

          If multiple (or even countless) people die because of your grave negligence (which is the most benevolent way to look at it) I don’t think the appropriate judgement is a fine.

          • Linktank@lemmy.today
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            21 hours ago

            Why are you defending billionaires keeping their money? The fine doesn’t have to be the only punishment. They should absolutely be stripped of their power(money) as well as facing other consequences.

            • Jiral@lemmy.org
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              12 hours ago

              I am not, i should have made it clearer above by saying “just a fine”

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                12 hours ago

                The all caps “AND” in my original comment implies that it would not be “just” one thing.

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    2 days ago

    Thousands of targets fully vetted as being accurate and ethical? Is this going to be one of those wars that no admits to being part of due to the crimes and failures?